• OrangeJoe@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    In fairness, voyager ruined the Borg, not Picard.

    Also not really sure about that whole being put in his place by women comment… Is it just that you feel he was put in his place at all, or that it was a woman who did it? Cause if it’s the latter…

    Anyways I feel that would be a mistake not to at least give SNW or lower decks a try as you never actually know until you try, but I’m not going to sit here and try and convince you beyond saying what I already have if you have already made up your mind. Then again, it’s probably a good idea if things being different upset you this much. All the best.

    And don’t worry I know you didn’t mean that I personally ruined star trek.

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      10 months ago

      Eh, you’re correct about Voyager being bad for the Borg. Then again Voyager was the weakest of all classic treks.

      On the comment of Picard “being put in his place by a woman”: I have no problem with female leaders. Admiral Nechayev was nice, Janeway could have been so much more… The problem is that the nu trek show runners on multiple occasions talked about their… Political leanings and literally said that they don’t care about trek, don’t care what it was and literally that trek is their political platform, and it shows.

      It’s not about that Picard gets dressed down by a woman, it’s about that women suddenly are all can’t-do-wrong Mary sues whereas the men are all bumbling no-goods. Also notice that women mostly behave like on-my-high-horse assholes. Again, “sheer fucking hubris” kinda says it all. Can you imagine any Admiral saying THAT in TNG/DS9?

      Not to mention the graphic violence. “But it happened that one time in TNG too!”. Yeah, there is this one crazy episode there amongst hundreds whereas nutrek just had your daily dose of violence. I’ll watch “the boys” for that (I do recommend if you’re into dark humor)

      This is not star trek. And no, I’m not going to give it my time anymore

      • Michael Gemar@mstdn.ca
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        10 months ago

        @phoenixz @startrek IMHO, Strange New Worlds is the most “Star Trek” show since TNG. It really captures the spirit of the original show.

        (I am not a fan of Picard or Discovery, largely because I feel they don’t have the elements I liked about past shows — they are too dark and pessimistic for my tastes.)

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          10 months ago

          I was told the same about discovery, then about picardz them about lower decks… I’ve wasted enough time on shitty modern trek, I don’t believe it anymore.