Not that there’s anything wrong with content warnings. But you’d think people who actively celebrate massacres and call for the death of others can handle a children’s cartoon lol

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    Idk how they expect to pull off a bloody revolution if MLP has elements that trigger them. This is definitely the first time I’ve seen content warnings for the series.

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    Funny stuff. Especially considering how tankies go ballistic with execution fantasies. I have personally seen one tankie fantasize about killing a non-tankie (that they were having discussing with) with an ice pick and generally behave like disgusting degenerates.

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      Of all the extremists I’ve had the misfortune of interacting with, from Neo-Nazis to Jihadists to Incels, Tankies are by far the most pathetic in terms of practicing what they preach.

      They larp about violence but can’t stand the sight of it for even a second, which questions how they’ll manage any revolution or advancing their course when merely going outside is a mental challenge for them. Reminds me of that Disco Elysium dialogue about communism, where it sounds brave to say the slogans, but when it comes to reality, you’ll have firing lines, animal wagons and genocide.

      It’s all larp. It’s why I think they like liberals and want to be liberal themselves, but feel too embarrassed to admit it.

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        Yeah I have been told, multiple times, this is my fault, personally, because I am not out shooting redhats. This is coming from people who’s comment history betrays they fact that they have never been in a fight, let alone killed someone.

      • Skiluros@sh.itjust.works
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        Yeah, tankies are the definitely the most pathetic and disconnected from reality.

        I would even go as far as saying it’s mostly online roleplay (bored teenagers, internet demagogue-shitposters and the mentally ill).

        And it’s a not matter of me talking shit about them and hating (I am Ukrainian so I do actually hate them). They have zero presence in the real world and no one takes them seriously.

        Russians treat them as useful idiots, I don’t know Chinese (and I’ve never loved in China), but I will speculate that even Chinese nationalists don’t take them seriously.

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          Yeah, it’s sad in a way that no one in geopolitics takes them seriously.

          But that’s probably a good thing that they’re ultimately harmless.

          Do you get any hate on lemmy for being ukranian?

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            Not really, no.

            There is definitely an above average amount people spreading russian propaganda considering the modest size (55K MAU).

            Lemmy seems like the most viable alternative to US-based social networks. Hopefully it gets larger and outgrows its tankie roots.

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                Eventually everyone will defederate the degenerates and all will be well. And there are alternatives to Lemmy, like piefed. Thanks to ActivityPub, you can talk with Lemmy communities easily.

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    This seems almost sane to me. I think its a very normal experience when watching stuff from your childhood that Adult You isnt cool with at all. I’m sure we’ve all had the experience of watching a movie you loved as a kid when you stumble upon the Racism Olympics Scene, e.g. the asian foreign exchange student in Sixteen Candles, or the blackface fish that appears during Under the Sea in the Little Mermaid. As for myself, I can’t stand plots where the entire plot revolves about our main character refusing to communicate or self-sabotaging for the entire movie, and it would be nice to get a heads-up about that going in even if thats not “triggering”.

    I think this is a rare Hexbear W, and I would be happy if this was more normal.

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      If child-you can handle watching a cartoon horse fall down some stairs, then adult-you can certainly handle it. If not, then something drastically wrong happened along the way.

      But the main point is their delight in consuming corporate media. The cartoon is an ad to sell more toys. It’s also about how they feel the need to put content warnings for a cartoon, but not for the memes they have celebrating massacres and atrocities, and the constant calls for violence, death and terrorism. You don’t see the irony of any of this?

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        You are generalizing bull crap again.

        People that join to watch /c/movies together aren’t necessarily watching a kids advertising show to get PTSD again at things people do get phobias with.

        Content warnings are great, EVEN WHEN STUDYING HISTORY. If you do find that hexies SHOULD content warn their communities more, TAKE IT TO THEIR /c/META. There’s no irony here, just disagreements on what phobias should or not be warned upon.

        E.g., I’m vegan, and did I report you for your KFC comment? No because I comprehended the context of your derisive joke. Should you have content warned for it? That’s a question you have to face with your administrators and sh.itjust.works users.

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          These are fair generalisations considering examples of their bigotry and irony have been posted all across this community.

          No one can comment on Hexbear or any tankie instance because they remove all forms of dissent. You can make these issues known if you want, but you won’t get anywhere. I also like how you’re equating watching corporate childrens media with studying history lol.

          If cartoon horses are enough to trigger you mate then you’re fucked wherever you visit online or even in reality.

    • RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
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      Strong disagree as this infantilizes people. You should as an adult experience art that challenges you and make you feel uncomfortable from time to time.

      The only trigger warnings that I think should be shared up front are those that actually trigger PTSD. You aren’t going to have war flashbacks from My Little Pony.

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        Read a book or two about PTSD. It has nothing to do with war, it’s about trauma. You can acquire a trauma in many ways and while war is the most talked about, it’s far from the most common.

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    These people will be on Starlight’s side during the Cutie Map. Or they’d go say that Starlight wasn’t actually practicing real communism.

    Idk. I feel mixed about the content warnings. They could be useful for some people, though it’s a little bit overboard. There are certainly worse episodes of My Little pony that’s for sure. I think of the Buffalo episode in season 1 (actual settler colonialism and then the lesson is just to share the land)

    All the depictions of these things are pretty mild in general. Although that doesn’t stop the My Little pony Community from making these incredibly detailed stories and worlds.

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    I see no issue, in fact this is rather progressive and I agree with them, should be way more common

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      I think many of these are a huge stretch and if you are getting triggered over “childhood bullying” in “My Little Pony Friendship is Magic” that perhaps you need to not be engaging with the internet unsupervised.

      At some point we have to let adults experience uncomfortable, negative, and unwanted emotions and experiences in art or otherwise we will infantilize the population.

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        A lot of people have trauma and these content warnings can help prevent panic attacks and traumatic episodes even, if it seems minor to you it may not be so minor to others

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          This is for a show designed for small children. If you cannot handle shows made for pre-schoolers than you need significant help and should not be ysing the internet as you are not healthy enough to handle that.

          Note: Im not rejecting trigger warnings entirely but I am saying that listing them for My Little Pony is extreme. If you cannot handle kids shows you have real problems

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            How is this even a conversation… Imagine this level of CW on a newspaper. You basically would have 30 CW per article.

            I think this is way overcompensating. There is a difference between putting generally disturbing content being a CW and putting anything remotely upsetting behind a CW. The latter is an overcompensation that leads to people avoiding any chance of being uncomfortable.

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      Not that there’s anything wrong with content warnings. But you’d think people who actively celebrate massacres and call for the death of others can handle a children’s cartoon lol

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            Im a different flavor of communist than the folks you see on hexbear and grad. Not a stan of DPRK or China. Not fond of the later years of the USSR. I don’t support modern day Russia in any conflicts it’s involved in either.

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              I’ve seen your comments on Hexbear. At best, you are neutral on their bigotry as you comment in threads that contain it. At worst, you agree with it.

              Here’s a challenge: Disavow Stalin on Hexbear and the fact that his authoritarianism is what ultimately killed communism. Unless you are a Stalinist?

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          Ukraine, as well as the Uyghur genocide in China. As long as it’s the right “team” doing the evil, it’s totally okay to them.

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          Most massacres. 7th of October massacres. The Barbara Pit. Soviet Union’s gulags. The Holodomor. The doctors plot murders. List goes on and all are documented on this community.

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            7th October was a Hamas attack, Barbara Pit was honest-to-god massacre that involved fascist Croatians affiliated with Nazi Germany, Gulags are Gulags, Holodomor is like calling the American Dustbowl a massacre (Wikipedia doesn’t agree on it being one) and the doctors plot can’t even be confirmed

            Why not talk about Xinjiang or Russian war crimes? Or Assad? Those are way more up to date

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              That’s apologia, you’re deflecting and handwaving all of this with whataboutism.

              7th of October massacres. The Barbara Pit. Soviet Union’s gulags. The Holodomor. The doctors plot murders. All atrocities. The Holodomor itself was a genocide.

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                Whataboutism only makes sense as a criticism when you use it to justify others, which I don’t think applies to me as I never compared them to anything, I never placed their value to be connected to an external context in a comparison, I only said what they were.

                !!! redundant: 7th October was a Hamas attack, though Israel have used this opportunity to spread falsehood about Palestinian resistance, Barbara Pit was a massacre of Croatian Nazi allies, Holodomor was a result of government inefficiency leading to grain shortages and starvation (contention being that it’s disputed if it was intentional or not, I personally doubt it was intentional) and the doctors plot (first I’ve heard of it before now) says that it is debated by historians!!!<

                You can’t just shut down discourse by shouting ‘Apologia’ or ‘Whataboutism’

                Neither did I deflect nor handwave it, I said it as I thought it was, Hamas attacks did cause civilian casualties although exaggerated by Israel, Yugoslavian freedom fighters did massacre those Croatians and keep it hidden for 60 years and the Holodomor did kill hundreds of thousands

                What frustrates me to no end is these topics becoming taboo, and even with Wikipedia accepting that there is discourse, people rejecting it because of Tankies

                I am stupid for writing this much when I don’t even need to, but either way their more modern claims and what they support hold more weight than what they think of the past, you could’ve talked about them supporting Assad for example

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                  You’re not discussing anything, though. The Holodomor is a genocide. The survivors call it a genocide. The perpetrators say it was deliberate.

                  Now you’re being revisionist by downplaying these atrocities.

                  Hamas attacks did cause civilian casualties although exaggerated by Israel, Yugoslavian freedom fighters did massacre those Croatians and keep it hidden for 60 years and the Holodomor did kill hundreds of thousands

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              Before this message gets deleted for hostility, he was mentioning him marking 7th of October as a massacre, and the commenter replied that using that as an example only propagates the genocide

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      They know their own community well which often comes off as insular, but yeah content warnings for a watch party is a pretty normal thing.

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    The way these people act in their day to day life has virtually nothing to do with their position on historical events.