• Arghblarg
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    5 days ago

    I heard the owner of a local cafe a few years ago complaining about how “he couldn’t find any good workers” … I asked the girl across the counter later if she was willing to state how much she was paid. Minimum wage. Approximately half of what the local government officially acknowledges what a living wage is here to afford a one-bedroom apartment.

    If your business can’t afford to pay your employees enough to feed, clothe and house themselves with a full-time position, then your business isn’t viable. Period.

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      If your business can’t afford to pay your employees enough to feed, clothe and house themselves with a full-time position, then your business isn’t viable. Period.

      This exactly. I have never understood how the managers or supervisors who ever is in charge of their pay to make it to where they can’t even afford to live on their own. The audacity of some of these employers. I was looking for a new job and they low balled me tremendously. I looked at them like, how in the hell am I suppose to live off that pay? You know McDonald’s pays much more. Even to McDonald’s pay, it’s still considerably very low but to have a job labeled as a decent occupation with some form of a college degree or experience, and then pay you as low or the same as McDonalds is wild to me. Then you have them complain “We can’t find anyone.” “Why does no one wanna work?” Shit Steve, maybe pay the workers/employees to where they can afford one bedroom apartment and get eggs for starters. It’s absolutely insane with these individuals who are looking to hire and the lack of common sense. Pay people a living wage maybe, and see what happens.

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      It is like with stocks

      Sure, you can invest as little as possible (like 3 cents), but don’t fucking expect to become a millionaire over the night. It’s not impossible, but you’re more likely to be lethaly hit by a blanket dropped by high-flying stork that he got from an open luggage compartment of flying Boeing 737.

      The more you give, the more you get

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      Capitalism doesn’t allow ethical business to be viable, though.

      So what you’re saying is that businesses should pay their workers less. Because the competition that fucks over their workers across the street wouldn’t make you viable otherwise.

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        Capitalism doesn’t allow ethical business to be viable, though.

        Costco seems to be doing just fine paying their workers a decent wage

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          They’re paying wages. Don’t you see the problem?

          Wages are exploitation. Abolish the wage system.

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      cafes are almost a revolving door for college students, to work part time. just like the corporate ones, they dont want to pay benefits.

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    when items are short prices rise. we are told “thats the market”. yet when labor rises in price we are told “omg this is terrible damn workers!”

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      "Our merchants and masters complain much of the bad effects of high wages in raising the price and lessening the sale of goods. They say nothing concerning the bad effects of high profits. They are silent with regard to the pernicious effects of their own gains. They complain only of those of other people.”

      ― Adam Smith, An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations

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    It’s manufactured consent by the corporations to force a labour shortage, and increase the adoption of automation.

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    There are no shortages of anything.

    We illegally sent 200 tons of electronic waste overseas because it’s cheaper to do that and have a war over rare earth minerals than just develop a recycling system here.

    There are literally dozens of mansions sitting empty because they aren’t nice enough for the people who buy mansions.

    Everything ‘scarce’ is scare because it’s more profitable that way.

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      It’s more like mansions are incredibly expensive to maintain and are usually customized to the tastes of the original owner. Even converting them to something more useful costs millions.

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        I’m sorry. If you offered those mansions as dorm housing they’d be filled in seconds. Or homeless shelters, or senior centers, or anything else. Look at Gaza and Ukraine; people turn an empty warehouse into a hospital in an hour.

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          Oh well if we are just going to steal them, then sure. Especially if you don’t plan on maintaining the building.

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          Would people move in and live there if you let them? Yes. They’d figure it out.

          Would it be up to code to actually support that? No. Not without extensive retrofitting.

          My dorms in college were century old Victorian style “mansions”. And they’d had the interiors redone to suit the purpose.

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              Yes I have heard of that. It didn’t apply here. They would not be legally habitable for those purposes UNTIL those changes are made. The buildings are not currently designed for that purpose. We have these housing codes for a reason.

              There’s an order things need to be done

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                A community can allow people who are rehabbing a building to live on site while improvements are being made.

                A homeless person would much rather live in a building without water and power then have to sleep in an open park, or even a shelter where they are cohabiting with mentally ill folk.

                Since we’d be changing laws to let people live there in the first place, making other changes would be a minor consideration.

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                  Sure, they could. Then a fire happens, and that community starts pointing fingers at how all these people died. Surely, someone should have prevented that…

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    No you can definitely have shortages of skilled labor, happens all the time. There is a demand for workers with a certain qualification than there are workers in that field in that location/country.

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      What if, hear me out, we paid the skilled labor more to make the position more attractive and also paid for training.

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        Well that works in the long run but if you need more, for example, doctors that’s like an 8 year pipeline. Over time the free market will correct for these things but you can’t just create skilled laborers overnight for any sum of money.

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    they do it in stem industry, they made a shortage, so they dont need to hire more people. its obvious when they do this by putitng listing that are pretty much exclusive to a scientists with niche skills. if they did starting hiring a ton, then would have to lower sALARIES of researchers, and it would probably scare them off.