Yeah, a lot of people don’t vote out of apathy, but IMO straight up voter suppression (especially the less overt kind) is an understated effect on our elections. It would be ridiculous to think having the world’s largest prison population per capita doesn’t also lead to a huge reduction in voting rights for those imprisoned, both currently and previously.
Sorry, it’s been ten years of this. I’m kinda done with giving nuance to Americans.
Harsh? Maybe, but when even the Democrats are caving in to Trump’s demands for fuck all reason, I’m just done caring about what the thoughts of people down South are.
Literally been told by “left-wing” Americans that my thoughts and opinions on their politics don’t matter even with the bullshit going on, and all I can think of is how I as someone over the border wouldn’t have to fucking care if they treated this guy like the fucking threat they supposedly see him as rather than do nothing more than tell people to vote as if that’s some big fucking accomplishment.
If getting out to vote is supposedly all that people could have done against this and nothing else (their words and actions, not mine), then yeah, ya get what ya vote for.
Exactly the kind of sentiment the people in power making these batshit decisions want. They want people making vapid generalizations, they want people reacting instead of thinking. Acting out against each other instead of working together.
You’re sick of this shit? We have to fucking live it. You want to give up? Fine. But don’t blame others when things don’t get better, while you sit on your high horse and the world burns around you. Cause it sure as fuck isn’t limited to the US, it’s just easier to ignore everything but because the US when they’re falling so far from where most people there thought they were.
Oh get over yourself. You people swear you’re fighting the good fight by thinking. That’s the whole problem. All anyone does is think, no action. Then it’s shocked pikachu face.
To people all over the world, ignore this type of bleating. This is the same rhetoric the dems use and thanks to them we’re now the dumb reich.
I’ll rephrase it for you: You get what you don’t resist. Also known as: History is made by the people who show up. The crux of the issue is that when it mattered, most people in America didn’t show up (and no, I’m not talking about election day). Americans collectively share responsibility for not showing up, and nothing is going to change until they decide to show up. It’s that simple.
Arguably, the systems that have lobotomized the US were set up by people who are so old they’re becoming president or dead. Lots of money is spent to make it hard to even see what is going on, let alone how to do something about it.
I ain’t the one giving up, I’ve hardly bought a single U.S. made product at the store since this nonsense started, and this entire ordeal has invigorated me to get more involved with my community and organizations that stand for the causes I believe in. I take a look at how voters and party members down south act for the most part on BOTH sides of the aisle, and the big conclusion I constantly come to is how Americans just seem to have a knack to give up on anything that supposedly matters to them.
I can go on all day about things that have happened over the years that have led me to that conclusion, but quite frankly it’s a lost cause if it takes someone outside borders to explain politics within them, assuming that people will even care or respect what people have to say outside borders to begin with.
I’m not saying it’s not bad or scary, I’m saying it’s worse to be here and a target. Living in Canada is the fucking dream for some people here right now. You’d think this wouldn’t be particularly outrageous to say, and yet.
That stuff isn’t happening here (yet) because we’re fighting in ways that you refused to for the last decade. Even then, that fight involves sacrificing our economy which will cause all forty million of us to suffer and possibly facing outright military invasion. Apparently that’s worth belittling us for. Fuck you.
If flinging abuse at me makes you feel like you have more control over the situation, go for it. You think this is scary? Your passport isn’t even at risk. Get a reality check on who is actually being fucked by this regime.
Take a look in the mirror, you literally commented on a post mocking pro-Palestine protestors for not voting for the Democrats and voting for Stein when, as always, it’s up to the parties to bring in the voters and not feel entitled to votes because “oh but that person is worse bro!”
But I wouldn’t expect an American to know how the right to vote how you want works. Democrats failed in not listening to their base and instead listened to monied interests from Israel, and therefore lost votes from people who dared to think that bombing innocent civilians and toddlers was bad.
How was they shilling for Stein? Seems to me they were equating the fact that he’s mad Americans didn’t get out and vote with a past post of your where you expressed frustration that other Americans got out and voted for Stein.
If I had to guess they didn’t want anyone voting Stein either. As Canadians we just wanted you guys to just show you learned after 2016. Forgive us if we’re a little mad considering all of the “51st state” threats that we’re forced to listen to daily up here. Do you know how frightening it is to have to think every day for months that you could be invaded by one of the worlds 2 superpowers? We’re mad up here right now, and hearing Americans say “yeah well what about what WE’RE going through” when we didn’t even have a say in this bullshit, is just very, very annoying.
DC voted 90%+ for Harris. There’s almost no chance he voted for this.
Around half of Americans don’t even vote too, further reducing the chance.
23% of America voted for this.
Not voting is a vote for the guy you absolutely would never vote.
Yeah, a lot of people don’t vote out of apathy, but IMO straight up voter suppression (especially the less overt kind) is an understated effect on our elections. It would be ridiculous to think having the world’s largest prison population per capita doesn’t also lead to a huge reduction in voting rights for those imprisoned, both currently and previously.
Sorry, it’s been ten years of this. I’m kinda done with giving nuance to Americans.
Harsh? Maybe, but when even the Democrats are caving in to Trump’s demands for fuck all reason, I’m just done caring about what the thoughts of people down South are.
Literally been told by “left-wing” Americans that my thoughts and opinions on their politics don’t matter even with the bullshit going on, and all I can think of is how I as someone over the border wouldn’t have to fucking care if they treated this guy like the fucking threat they supposedly see him as rather than do nothing more than tell people to vote as if that’s some big fucking accomplishment.
If getting out to vote is supposedly all that people could have done against this and nothing else (their words and actions, not mine), then yeah, ya get what ya vote for.
Exactly the kind of sentiment the people in power making these batshit decisions want. They want people making vapid generalizations, they want people reacting instead of thinking. Acting out against each other instead of working together.
You’re sick of this shit? We have to fucking live it. You want to give up? Fine. But don’t blame others when things don’t get better, while you sit on your high horse and the world burns around you. Cause it sure as fuck isn’t limited to the US, it’s just easier to ignore everything but because the US when they’re falling so far from where most people there thought they were.
Oh get over yourself. You people swear you’re fighting the good fight by thinking. That’s the whole problem. All anyone does is think, no action. Then it’s shocked pikachu face.
To people all over the world, ignore this type of bleating. This is the same rhetoric the dems use and thanks to them we’re now the dumb reich.
I’ll rephrase it for you: You get what you don’t resist. Also known as: History is made by the people who show up. The crux of the issue is that when it mattered, most people in America didn’t show up (and no, I’m not talking about election day). Americans collectively share responsibility for not showing up, and nothing is going to change until they decide to show up. It’s that simple.
Arguably, the systems that have lobotomized the US were set up by people who are so old they’re becoming president or dead. Lots of money is spent to make it hard to even see what is going on, let alone how to do something about it.
I ain’t the one giving up, I’ve hardly bought a single U.S. made product at the store since this nonsense started, and this entire ordeal has invigorated me to get more involved with my community and organizations that stand for the causes I believe in. I take a look at how voters and party members down south act for the most part on BOTH sides of the aisle, and the big conclusion I constantly come to is how Americans just seem to have a knack to give up on anything that supposedly matters to them.
I can go on all day about things that have happened over the years that have led me to that conclusion, but quite frankly it’s a lost cause if it takes someone outside borders to explain politics within them, assuming that people will even care or respect what people have to say outside borders to begin with.
Now imagine how much worse it is actually being here and being one of the targeted groups.
Like someone who’s home is under threat of annexation?
Whose
Yeah dude that’s probably worse than being forcibly detransitioned and sent to a camp in Guantanamo or El Salvador.
As a Canadian who’s sick of Amerikkkas shit, yeah… both can be bad at the same time. They don’t exist in a vacuum from one another.
I’m not saying it’s not bad or scary, I’m saying it’s worse to be here and a target. Living in Canada is the fucking dream for some people here right now. You’d think this wouldn’t be particularly outrageous to say, and yet.
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That stuff isn’t happening here (yet) because we’re fighting in ways that you refused to for the last decade. Even then, that fight involves sacrificing our economy which will cause all forty million of us to suffer and possibly facing outright military invasion. Apparently that’s worth belittling us for. Fuck you.
If you’ve ever wondered how you’d treat a trans person living in an oppressive dictatorship, now you know.
Honestly cannot emphasize enough how deranged it is to say that “hey, living under this is worse than living next to it” is somehow belittling you.
Edit: also, the hilarity of doing this in a community with a giant rainbow banner in the sidebar isn’t lost on me.
I know how I’d treat an asshole.
If flinging abuse at me makes you feel like you have more control over the situation, go for it. You think this is scary? Your passport isn’t even at risk. Get a reality check on who is actually being fucked by this regime.
I couldn’t read this because I’m done giving nuance to simpletons
Take a look in the mirror, you literally commented on a post mocking pro-Palestine protestors for not voting for the Democrats and voting for Stein when, as always, it’s up to the parties to bring in the voters and not feel entitled to votes because “oh but that person is worse bro!”
But I wouldn’t expect an American to know how the right to vote how you want works. Democrats failed in not listening to their base and instead listened to monied interests from Israel, and therefore lost votes from people who dared to think that bombing innocent civilians and toddlers was bad.
Shilling for Stein. You lost 100% of your credibility
How was they shilling for Stein? Seems to me they were equating the fact that he’s mad Americans didn’t get out and vote with a past post of your where you expressed frustration that other Americans got out and voted for Stein.
If I had to guess they didn’t want anyone voting Stein either. As Canadians we just wanted you guys to just show you learned after 2016. Forgive us if we’re a little mad considering all of the “51st state” threats that we’re forced to listen to daily up here. Do you know how frightening it is to have to think every day for months that you could be invaded by one of the worlds 2 superpowers? We’re mad up here right now, and hearing Americans say “yeah well what about what WE’RE going through” when we didn’t even have a say in this bullshit, is just very, very annoying.
What credibility? That of random canuck talking shit he doesn’t know about on social media? I don’t think it’s that huge of a loss.
Missing the point entirely, typical American.
Oi. You. YOU. I like you. And I like what you’re saying.
We get it, you’re bigoted and aren’t curious. Which I’m sure you’d claim are only American traits.
oww noooo, am I bewing bigowted to da pow widdle amewican?
Don’t you have some Bill Maher anti-woke compilation to watch? Not responding further.
Which other victimized peoples do you hate and wish to divide?
The thread hates you because you suck.
DC is in the US however.
Yes, I’m not saying it shouldn’t be boycotted. I’m contesting the idea that the cab driver got what he voted for.