• exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de
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    12 hours ago

    What is the problem with a BSD-license? I’m not familiar with the different open source licensing models and their problems.

    • HouseWolf@lemm.ee
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      3 hours ago

      It’s not really an issue for the end user. But it’s basically made for companies to take advantage of free hobbyist developers without needing to give anything back in return.

      So if you’re the kind of person who runs to foss software to get away from corporate tech bull, having a license that benefits companies more than users just kinda feels scummy.

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      5 hours ago

      Remember the Minix operating system that runs on your processors ? It’s a proprietary spyware now because of BSD licencing

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      11 hours ago

      Basically, it allows you to steal all the code and use it in your closed-source programs, giving a green light for corporations to use open-source code without giving anything back.

      GPL doesn’t allow that, forcing you to open-source anything that was produced using other GPL-licensed code. That’s, for example, why so much of Linux software is open-source - it commonly relies on various dependencies that are GPL-licensed, so there is no other legal option other than sharing the code as well.

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        It’s not “stealing”. It’s explicitly allowed. Using IP according to its licence is the opposite of stealing.

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            5 hours ago

            That is definitionally not plagiarising. It follows IP law, which is the opposite of plagiarism.

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              There’s more than a legal definition of plagiarism.

              Plagiarism is when you sell the work of others as your own without attribution. There are bucketloads of examples of legal plagiarism.

              I’m pretty sure that everything H. Bomberguy discussed in his plagiarism video was legal, for example.

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                No, actually, plagiarism is a legalistic term. If IP law did not exist, neither would plagiarism.

                And if you give someone permission to use your IP, and they go ahead and use that permission, it is not plagiarism neither legally nor by any colloquial understanding of the term. That is what happens when someone uses BSD or MIT code in their proprietary software. It is explicitly allowed, by design, by intention.

                without attribution

                BSD/MIT also don’t allow you to not attribute the author of the BSD/MIT code, so that doesn’t even make sense. You are perhaps thinking of code released public domain, in which case, again, the author specifically chose that over BSD/MIT, and the main practical difference is not needing to give attribution, so that must be what the original author wanted.

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                  I think your legalistic view of the world is quite limiting.

                  It’s not illegal to rephrase what someone wrote in a book and pass it off as your own work. You can’t “wown” a cultural analysis. It’s still plagiarism.

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      11 hours ago

      Apple, Sony, N*****do, Netflix all use BSD but they don’t contribute any code to the BSD project itself, because of the BSD allow other people/company to close source their code when using with BSD

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      11 hours ago

      It’s not a viral copyleft license, so you’re free to use the source code without giving anything back.

      This has pros and cons over something like GPL, but people like to circlejerk GPL and pretend it’s always the best option 100% of the time.
      For situations where you have to sign an NDA and are unable to release source code (eg; console game dev), MIT and BSD licensed projects are a godsend.

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        8 hours ago

        MIT/BSD also makes the most sense for small/minimal projects where GPL is likely overkill. A 100 line script does not need to be GPL’ed. A small static website does not need to be GPL’ed.