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    8 hours ago

    It’s not “stealing”. It’s explicitly allowed. Using IP according to its licence is the opposite of stealing.

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        5 hours ago

        That is definitionally not plagiarising. It follows IP law, which is the opposite of plagiarism.

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          There’s more than a legal definition of plagiarism.

          Plagiarism is when you sell the work of others as your own without attribution. There are bucketloads of examples of legal plagiarism.

          I’m pretty sure that everything H. Bomberguy discussed in his plagiarism video was legal, for example.

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            No, actually, plagiarism is a legalistic term. If IP law did not exist, neither would plagiarism.

            And if you give someone permission to use your IP, and they go ahead and use that permission, it is not plagiarism neither legally nor by any colloquial understanding of the term. That is what happens when someone uses BSD or MIT code in their proprietary software. It is explicitly allowed, by design, by intention.

            without attribution

            BSD/MIT also don’t allow you to not attribute the author of the BSD/MIT code, so that doesn’t even make sense. You are perhaps thinking of code released public domain, in which case, again, the author specifically chose that over BSD/MIT, and the main practical difference is not needing to give attribution, so that must be what the original author wanted.

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              4 hours ago

              I think your legalistic view of the world is quite limiting.

              It’s not illegal to rephrase what someone wrote in a book and pass it off as your own work. You can’t “wown” a cultural analysis. It’s still plagiarism.

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                I don’t have a legalistic view of the world; I am saying plagiarism is a legalistic concept. For context, I support the abolition of law and of intellectual property. Plagiarism is a particular kind of violation of intellectual property law, and without IP, it makes no sense. You still fail to define a plagiarism outside of the law, and you also fail to define a plagiarism that does not violate MIT/BSD. MIT/BSD both require attribution. You cannot claim MIT/BSD code written by someone else as your own without breaking copyright law.