https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39616364?scrollToComments=true
https://lemmy.world/u/[email protected]
https://lemmy.world/modlog/?userId=1957570
Underage, you will be unbanned when you turn 18 (happy birthday in advance)
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39616364?scrollToComments=true
https://lemmy.world/u/[email protected]
https://lemmy.world/modlog/?userId=1957570
Underage, you will be unbanned when you turn 18 (happy birthday in advance)
Legit, I thought you took your instance more seriously than this. This is basic covering-your-ass shit.
I am not inclined to seriously discuss our instance with people who act obnoxiously.
Well, then I hope you find someone non-obnoxious to discuss it with. Because if you’re actually interested in dbzer0 as more than a hobbyist project that breaks when-it-breaks, being able to address and head off legal issues is core to the long-term survival of a site. Whereas acting like being wary of the laws of forces that absolutely can royally fuck your site is fundamentally unreasonable rather than a very real threat that must be addressed one way or another is a great way to get… well, royally fucked.
The law is a spook. You seem to fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of db0
Exactly. Foucault argued that you can tell when a group has been subjugated, because they start to self-police according to the oppressor’s rules. From a liberal perspective, the state is desirable, so an individual internalizing and following the state’s laws is desirable.
But from an anarchist perspective, the state is oppressive (and especially so for a fascist state) so internalizing and following the state’s laws is tantamount to self-subjugation. And following the laws of a fascist state is acting in support of the fascist state.
I didn’t realize anarchism meant never picking which battles to fight at a given time and arena.
What do you mean PJ?
Running a public website of any sort is an incredibly vulnerable position. You can’t ‘run’ or even meaningfully ‘fight’, all of your information is ultimately traceable back to you, and your main asset is at the whims of the institutions of capitalist society. The more ‘battles’ you fight using the website as a means not just of organization, education, and agitation, but of a challenge to the law itself, the more your website’s effective lifespan will be shortened. In any area which one is going to challenge the law itself using the website, one should be prepared for that fight, not simply as a one-off “Fuck you pigs, I don’t answer to your laws” (which anyone who has attempted with a cop squad with a judge-signed warrant outside of their door can assure you is ineffective), but with meaningful arguments and preparations within the context of the society we are fighting these battles in.
Put another way - running a mutual aid nonprofit is generally not the time to give the middle finger to the government on tax filing status, helping immigrants evade ICE is not the time to be flagrantly breaking traffic laws, and a soup kitchen for those abandoned by capitalism is probably not a good arena for challenging sanitation regulations. IF you are going to pick any of those additional fights, you should be prepared, not simply dismissive on ideological grounds - it might warrant the dismissal on ideological grounds, but on practical grounds, you are headbutting a 20 meter-thick brick wall and saying “It’s me or you!”. The end result is not in question; only the timescale.
You don’t have to like the law to use the law against itself; you don’t have to be a supporter of the rules of the game to use them to protect yourself. But refusing to acknowledge their existence in a society where the law remains extremely powerful may sate your ideological urges, but it will sink all your ideological projects.
I feel you have a very US-centric and litigious take on this. Afaik it’s not illegal (in most places, yet) to discuss the topics of piracy or anarchism on the internet, or to allow younger folks who are interested in these topics to participate in the discussion. Maybe we just have a different outlook on these things. There’s nothing we talk about here that hasn’t also been discussed on Reddit and many other websites for decades. The alternative is to go the LW route and preemptively self-censor discussions to the point that users can’t express their honest opinions any more (e.g. about Luigi). And at that point we might as well close the instance down ourselves as it wouldn’t stand for anything.
Anyway, appreciate you being concerned about us.
So obeying any laws whatsoever is inherently undesirable?
Obeying laws that serve no purpose is a bootlicker exercise
Exactly my point.
How about the laws that serve a purpose?
Do you think this is one of those? Do you think a law designed to favor conservative parental rights movements who seek to oppress and own children, and cut them off from their support networks serves a valid or reasonable purpose?
If the law has a clear purpose and that purpose is beneficial to the working class, I don’t need it tp be a law. I just go along with it because that’s how we make society work.
There is a group of Lemmy users that use the “law” to justify their censorship behavior and demands.
It is getting tiring.
But sure if instance owner doesn’t wants young people posting on there, they can just block. This silly reasons are just silly though.
Just say you don’t want to deal with it and move on.
This appeal to authorita is disingenuous IMHO
Not necessarily, e.g., if they align with your values. But age restricting access to a general purpose platform seems very nanny state to me.
It depends on your opinion. Anarchy isn’t a prescriptive unitary ideology, and it’s got a lot of different things behind it and subgroups and whatever. You can have Stirner’s Egoist perspective on laws, being that you just follow whatever laws suit your own ego, or you can have the Illegalists’ perspective on laws, that they’re all worth breaking.
Now I know you’re not only not a real anarchist or have any understanding of anarchism whatsoever but likely a bootlicker too.
I don’t think he does, I think he’s just your classic bootlicker who fundamentally is against everything that dbzer0 stands for, maybe us leftists as a whole too. After looking through his history I have a hard time believing he isn’t an alt-right troll.
disengage
This is PugJesus were talking about, the dude doesn’t know how.