• TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
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    15 hours ago

    Well yeah hes not a commie. He did not invent shock therapy, he considers this naming actually an insult.

    Many people respond to criticism with negativity…

    his advice was largely ignored both by soviets and amies.

    Says who?

    From your paste is also Ukraine missing.

    The whole thing about quoting something is you don’t control what is left in or out, but yes Ukraine is a former Soviet state.

    Why exactly is this supposed socialist sub defending the honor of a capitalist economist who participated in the parting out of the Soviet economy?

    Is campism so strong that we are now cheerleading capitalists economists just because they support Russian nationalist?

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      14 hours ago

      Calling something by the wrong “name” is not exactly criticism.

      The fact that his ideas were mostly not implemented is a matter of observation.

      Quite a stretch of the word quote, is this wikipedia?

      Well I would say that its precisely that the campism isnt strong when regardless of the fact that he is a capitalist, we can reject dogmatic criticism and ask for at least some rational basis.

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        14 hours ago

        Calling something by the wrong “name” is not exactly criticism.

        So he’s just upset at the name, not the implied criticism behind it?

        is a matter of observation.

        Ahh, so because you said so. Got it

        Quite a stretch of the word quote

        Literally is a quote from Wikipedia, yes.

        Well I would say that its precisely that the campism isnt strong when regardless of the fact that he is a capitalist we can reject only dogmatic criticism and ask for at least some rational basis

        And what is that rational bias of defending his views other than Russia supposedly standing up to western imperialism by doing western styled imperialism?

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          14 hours ago

          I dont think that he is particularly upset.

          No see if one was to compare his advice take the one to the us planners that they should provide for example loans to the soviets it was completely rejected, as the us chauvinistically did not want to help.

          Quote of whom?

          First where does security concern equal “standing up to something”. Secondly what exactly do you mean by the concept of rational bias?

          edit: do you know that some bolsheviks pragmatically supported capitalist policies as means to help the national economy and as transitional to communism. Your argument crumbles even in this respect.