Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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    Bari Weiss, IDW star, founder of The Free Press and author of “How to Fight Anti-Semitism” publishes and then approvingly tweets excerpts from not-very-convincingly-ex white supremacist Richard Hanania explaining that

    These stiff-armed salutes are not expressions of sincere Nazism but an oppositional culture that, like a rebel band that keeps wearing fatigues after victory, has failed to realize it’s no longer in the opposition.

    Quite uncharacteristically, she deleted her tweet in shame, but not before our friend TracingWoodgrains signal boosted it, adding “Excellent, timely article from Hanania.” His favorite excerpt, unsurprisingly, is Hanania patiently explaining that open Nazism is not “a winning political strategy.” Better to insinuate your racism with sophistication!

    Shortly after, realizing he needed to even out his light criticism of his fascist comrades, Woodgrains posted about “vile populism to right of me, vile populism to left of me”, with the latter being the Luigi fandom (no citation that this is leftist, and contrary to the writings of Luigi). To his mind the latter is worse “because there is a vanishingly short path between it and more political murders in the short-term future”, whereas open Nazism at the highest levels of the American conservative movement doesn’t hurt anyone [important].

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      These stiff-armed salutes are not expressions of sincere Nazism but an oppositional culture that, like a rebel band that keeps wearing fatigues after victory, has failed to realize it’s no longer in the opposition.

      “Keep wearing”, so is he saying that Musk et al “keep doing” “stiff-armed salutes” (that anyone with eyes can see are Nazi salutes) in public?

      I know one shouldn’t expect logic from a Nazi, but claiming that the fog horn is actually a dog whistle is really ridiculous. “You heard nothing!”

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      an oppositional culture

      [enraged goose meme] “Oppositional to what, motherfucker? Oppositional to what?!”

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      How is Hanania the “ex” Nazi a credible source on this at all? For fucks sake!

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        It helps sanewash their own prejudices. “See, this guy could be talked down from the worst of it, aren’t we reasonable by comparison?”

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      The Luigi thing is already souring on me a bit as a saw a yter use his actions to threaten gaming companies. (And it wasnt even some super predatory gaming company it was really a “wtf dude” moment. Dont get me wrong im not mourning the CEO, and the McDonald’s guy was wrong, but jesus fuck Gamers ruin everything.

      E: And it wasn’t even about Fortnite, or Roblox like those predatory goes after kids things, nope just some dumb live service game with a cosmetics store badly bolted on in a corner. Sure horse armor sucks, but damn touch some grass and note the difference between lifetimes in debt or die and paying for overprices skins.

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        gamergaters and their descendants are novel (to me). for them the games themselves are just vehicles for what they really care about, which is despising game developers and journalists. they’re far right, but much more specifically than that they’re an anti labor movement targeting labor that makes and writes about one type of product. their primary goal is that the labor feel frightened, unstable, etc

        if you’ve ever seen chuds cheering mass firings (say by elon at twitter or the white house), it’s the same spirit, except elevated to the top priority

        EDIT: which now that I think about it makes it pretty perverse to invoke Luigi - the whole thing that makes the UHC assassination persistently popular is that the target was a person of enormous power and not labor

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          It’s like…they’re trying to do a Peronism by hijacking working class ideas for their weird right wing bullshit, but they’re lazy computer touchers so they just seem unhinged to outsiders.