$5 says that this is a ploy to get trump to soften his trade ware rhetoric with the eu; once (and if) democrats retake control, they’ll switch back since sinophobia is virtue in the west.
The question is whether the EU can actually survive the next four years. My bet would be that there’s not a chance in hell of Trump softening his policy because he viscerally hates EU on a personal level. These people openly made an enemy out of him, and he’s a very petty man.
france and germany have a better chance at keeping their fascists out of their government than the united states; if they manage to keep that firewall up and keep importing russian energy through back doors, i can see them surviving.
Seems like both France and Germany are taking a hard right actually, with RN and AfD being the most popular parties respectively. They do both want to restore relations with Russia however, and that would be a path for France and Germany to survive. However, I expect that the EU centre is going to collapse, and without either France or Germany the EU is as good as dead anyways.
the RN and the AfD were the fascists i was alluding to and i’m drawing hope from episodes like the french left & liberal voters unifying against the RN to win their last election and the german conservatives & protesters alike rejecting their leadership’s intriguing with the AfD.
$5 says that this is a ploy to get trump to soften his trade ware rhetoric with the eu; once (and if) democrats retake control, they’ll switch back since sinophobia is virtue in the west.
The question is whether the EU can actually survive the next four years. My bet would be that there’s not a chance in hell of Trump softening his policy because he viscerally hates EU on a personal level. These people openly made an enemy out of him, and he’s a very petty man.
france and germany have a better chance at keeping their fascists out of their government than the united states; if they manage to keep that firewall up and keep importing russian energy through back doors, i can see them surviving.
Seems like both France and Germany are taking a hard right actually, with RN and AfD being the most popular parties respectively. They do both want to restore relations with Russia however, and that would be a path for France and Germany to survive. However, I expect that the EU centre is going to collapse, and without either France or Germany the EU is as good as dead anyways.
the RN and the AfD were the fascists i was alluding to and i’m drawing hope from episodes like the french left & liberal voters unifying against the RN to win their last election and the german conservatives & protesters alike rejecting their leadership’s intriguing with the AfD.
Didn’t the French liberals immediately stab the left in the back and side with the right?
macron did and he’s a centrist.
Are centrists not liberal?
I don’t know how centrist translates since I’m an American and American liberalism is Western European center-right.
Fwiw: it seems so or at least a LOT of overlap.