• Lucia [she/her]@eviltoast.orgEnglish
    61·
    1 year ago

    The problem with large blocking lists is that they can’t be easily audited. How do you know if there’s any legit website amongst 400 links?

    • Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.comEnglish
      71·
      1 year ago

      I agree. I think relying too heavily on blocklists can be a detriment to the growth and decentralization of the Fediverse. Who even decides what ends up on them? Maybe you pass through the crossair of whoever handles that while they’re having a bad day and boom, you’re barred out of 2/3 of all the content.

      • Lucia [she/her]@eviltoast.orgEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        I don’t mind big blocklists honestly, the problem with auditing is purely on a UX side - if we would have a way to sort/filter isntances by software and have some kind of grouping (“all of these instances are on a list of badies”), it wouldn’t be such a problem.

        What’s really a problem is whitelisting. It’s proactively punishing those who use small/personal instances, and not federating is much easier than defederating, so it’ll more probably be abused by admins.

        • Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.comEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          What’s really a problem is whitelisting.

          Agreed. Fortunately very few instances rely on that. The only decently big one is hexbear.net, the second biggest both of our instances are barred from has 41 active users and all the others have only a single digit of active users. Not that big of a loss.

          Data for your instance: https://defed.xyz/check/eviltoast.org

          • Lucia [she/her]@eviltoast.orgEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            I can imagine whitelisting to become more popular as Lemmy user base grows and communities become more suitable for lurkers and non-techies who know nothing about federation.

            Data for your instance: https://defed.xyz/check/eviltoast.org

            It’s such a contrast seeing blank blocklist after using Beehaw and blahaj honestly. Small instances are so much better tbh. And this tool is great, thanks! I hope we’ll figure out how to get a list of blocked communities somehow. This lack of transparency is so annoying.

            • Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.comEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              For real. Small instances ftw. Glad you enjoy my tool. Investigating blocked communities might be a feature for a future upgrade, thanks for the idea.

    • The Cuuuuube@beehaw.orgEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      It’s also a problem with how much information Lemmy makes available. In most of the fediverse the block list includes a reason field

      • Lucia [she/her]@eviltoast.orgEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        Yeah, it would also be great if a user could easily sort blocked communities by software, to stop seeing all the mastodon and pleroma instances.

        • The Cuuuuube@beehaw.orgEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          I like the idea of filters and sorting. Also I liked the old layout better where there was a vertical split with federated instances on the left and defederated instances on the right