• whoisearth
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    5 hours ago

    I was gonna say “lol dude was in South Africa do you realize how corrupt and incompetent it is there with situations like Eskom routinely shutting off power to paid customers?”

    But then I realized in South Africa the “evil black man” stood up to the Afrikaans to take back their country so they won’t bend over backwards for him.

    America on the other hand… They’re a bastion of recessive policies and racist undertones.

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      2 hours ago

      What you have to understand. South Africa took back democratic control. As a country we have been forced to process institutional racism. We have been confronted by it and have to work to over come it. It was done in a remarkably smooth way as well (but let’s not forget all those who died to achieve it)

      The USA and many other countries never had this flash point realisation/reckoning - it’s just in the back ground with people who deny racism exists - or don’t understand privilege. It’s all just hidden under the surface.

      South Africa has its issues and a hangover from this past but it also has people who work very hard to try get us back to functioning well. We are stronger as a nation because we have confronted these racial ideologies and it’s out in the open - there are words for it - it can be identified- and so now it can be processed and healing can happen.

      It’s been a generation since and it’s going to take another two or three to get there but we doing it.

      Counties with this sub surface crap will never confront their issues - and they will need a reckoning.

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        1 hour ago

        I’m curious if you’re white or black. My girlfriend is Zulu and although things have changed there is still a schism between specifically Afrikaans and the various tribes. Things are 100% better now and those in the born-free generation but it will take a long time for the sting to leave.

        As I’m Canadian and familiar with our own Truth and Reconciliation I’m curious as your country started where you are in your journey and what challenges exist in completing it.

        Where I think SA and Canada both synergize is we both have a great sense of humour and pride of who we are, and if you come at one of us you come at all of us.

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          6 minutes ago

          White male english - very aware of my privilege - family members killed by previous government. Also in urban centre…

          There is still a divide yes - and it’s made worse by socio economics. The old guard on both sides of the rift needs to pass on now. But I see hope in the youth and in the workplace. It’s more that the divide is acknowledged by most - which means the younger generations are able to process it.

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            Yeah I notice the acknowledgement is the huge difference to what you see elsewhere.

            Trevor Noah put it right in paraphrasing, when the racism is so open it’s easy to see the ridiculousness of it.