• VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works
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    58 minutes ago

    They aren’t Nazis, far from it. Using that kind of hyperbolic language and forced equivalence hinders you from understanding how Trumpism/MAGA actually works. Trumpism has some similarities with fascism, but it’s fully its own extremely American populist personality cult.

    The ideology and policies of the Nazis were on a whole different level.

    Trumpism doesn’t need to be fully fascist, because it managed to gain all branches of government through elections. Trump is actually popular and democratically legitimized.

    If your analysis remains at Nazis! you will never understand how to fight them. It has failed as a political tactic for years. They laugh at it, and rightly so.

    • Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      44 minutes ago

      I feel like this kind of reductive language isn’t helpful. They are nazis in the sense that mstters.

      Nazi has for a while been another word for fascist, or at least a particular brand of it. The Republican party as a whole has slowly been moving in this direction my entire life.

      Trump being too stupid to play the long game managed to build a cult around him by speed running fascism, but there is nothing he stands for that the Republican party hasn’t had a long hystory of standing for.

      People denying the facism is how we got here.

  • Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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    32 minutes ago

    Some of those articles are opinion pieces lol , wow great sources. Especially the one that compares Trump to Hitler. Definitely no bias there. That one was a far reach.

    All of those articles can be construed as fear mongering as well, the very same thing people accuse right wing media and Republicans of.

    A big tug of war.

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    17 hours ago

    They are fascists. They are not nazis. Nazis ate WWII era German fascists that attempted to create the ubermensch and create a 1000 year reich.

    Nazis are a different flavor of fascism

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      3 hours ago

      Fascism is like cancer of humanity, it has been on remission for a while and now its starting to come back possibly even worse because it couldn’t be eradicated when weakened.

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        2 hours ago

        It always holds appeal for some especially people born into wealth that are personally insecure. I suspect that’s why American schools dont really teach kids about the fundamentals of fascist philosophy.

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          Fate and direction of humanity might depend on how well americans resist now. america has way too much military power and nukes.

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            They all do the fascist salute. The Nazis took it from the Italian fascists. If the fascist isn’t German, trying to create a master race (the nazis were not the master race they were supposed to create it), or attempting to institute a 1000 year reich then they are not Nazis.

            Most fascists are not Nazis, that doesn’t make them better.

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              14 hours ago

              Right, I get what you’re saying. But words and affiliations change over time and can get appropriated by other parties. Neonazis for example. They’re all fascists and I’m positive Elon Musk emulated Hitler, for whatever reason.

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                12 hours ago

                All Nazis are fascists but not all fascists are nazis much like communists are leftists but not all leftists are communists.

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        17 hours ago

        The minds behind the Southern Strategy are the same who helped move conservative Democrat voters over to the Republicans during the 60s and solidified the voters into one of two camps: fascists and the rest. The fascists then used “law and order” and “prosperity over liberty” policy proposals to focus the party. Once Reagan took over and gave the overt cause of “make money at all costs”, it was the carcinogen that fueled antidemocratic ideologues. Imagine there are only a handful of media outlets and Rush Limbaugh is on half of them. It’s been a nightmare plunging into chaos since the early 90s.

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          Then add to it the expansion of the internet and the expectation of everything being free, making advertising revenue become the primary motivator for news companies rather than providing accurate information. Bias has always existed, and headlines have always included hyperbole, but the transition to internet advertising revenue meant insanity is what brought revenue, not reality.

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            14 hours ago

            Also we put the money guys in charge of companies when previously you kept the finance side away from the journalists so ypu gave the best news.

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    18 hours ago

    “Are we the baddies?”

    - The USA

    “Aww cute. Who taught them to ask that?”

    - Me.

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    11 hours ago

    You know how hard it is to deal with your parents being nazis? Most your family? Can’t blame some americans for being too ashamed to admit they’re disgusting. Don’t worry, your going to get that special inheritance and be another version of nasty until we put you in the ground too.

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    11 hours ago

    Democrats are Nazis, too. They’re arming literal Nazi military forces, and just armed a genocide for over a year.

    It is as communists theorists always predicted would happen. As capitalism falls, the capitalists embrace fascism.

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        3 hours ago

        Yes, Naziism is an ideology… that promotes the ideals of ethnic superiority and killing those deemed less than… such as with a genocide.

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              Oh yeah yeah, that’s how that works. Anything I don’t like is a Nazi, eh?

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                You are literally defending Democrats for allying with Nazis and committing genocide. This isn’t some wildly unrelated topic with a random Nazi accusation thrown in. You came into this defending Naziism.

                Fuck off, fascist.