Someone told you not to trust either. Presumable not the same person, presumable American government told you not to trust China but that begs then question who told you not to trust the American government.
Further the meme implies one should trust the Chinese government presumably because an untrustworthy source told you not to which is a mentally stunted view.
Not being trapped under the direct influence of the Chinese government, there are clearly many of reasons not to trust that government either.
There is no reason to trust any government. A basic understanding of history should make it clear that this is true of any government that has ever existed.
who told you not to trust the American government.
You don’t have to be told not to trust it. Even deluded Chuds who guzzle US corporate propaganda all day don’t trust it.
Further the meme implies one should trust the Chinese government presumably because an untrustworthy source told you not to which is a mentally stunted view.
No, the meme implies that your distrust isn’t justified, not that trust is justified.
Not being trapped under the direct influence of the Chinese government, there are clearly many of reasons not to trust that government either.
Okay, have you talked to any recent(as in the last 10 years) immigrants from China who don’t make way over the median US income? Or hell, earlier immigrants mostly only complain about the liberalization period under Deng.
There is no reason to trust any government. A basic understanding of history should make it clear that this is true of any government that has ever existed
This doesn’t really acknowledge the class character of the state.
People have personal biases, good and bad. People have confirmation bias. It sounds like the immigrants biases have confirmed your biases.
Even if I were to ignore all of that, your experience is an anecdotal data point for me so my opinion that no government should be trust remains.
Given that I’m not attempting to replicate or advocate for any specific form of government this seems prudent.
For anyone still reading and is really bored, my personal belief is that the only path forward is an society that is governed by immutable mathematical agreements.
It’s hard to describe what I have in mind in a comment as there are many interacting pieces that together create a system that requires no government, no leaders, no fake money and no ambiguity.
Saying that the Chinese government censors news from their citizens and attempts to spread propaganda about themselves to the outside world doesn’t make sense to you?
Living in the US is sufficient cause to distrust its government.
Being educated is a sufficient cause to distrust all governments.
Idk I like it when the proletariat is able to dictate the course of society
Also your reply contradicts your statement that I first replied to.
Not at all.
Someone told you not to trust either. Presumable not the same person, presumable American government told you not to trust China but that begs then question who told you not to trust the American government.
Further the meme implies one should trust the Chinese government presumably because an untrustworthy source told you not to which is a mentally stunted view.
Not being trapped under the direct influence of the Chinese government, there are clearly many of reasons not to trust that government either.
There is no reason to trust any government. A basic understanding of history should make it clear that this is true of any government that has ever existed.
You don’t have to be told not to trust it. Even deluded Chuds who guzzle US corporate propaganda all day don’t trust it.
No, the meme implies that your distrust isn’t justified, not that trust is justified.
Okay, have you talked to any recent(as in the last 10 years) immigrants from China who don’t make way over the median US income? Or hell, earlier immigrants mostly only complain about the liberalization period under Deng.
This doesn’t really acknowledge the class character of the state.
Why would immigrants be trusted source?
People have personal biases, good and bad. People have confirmation bias. It sounds like the immigrants biases have confirmed your biases.
Even if I were to ignore all of that, your experience is an anecdotal data point for me so my opinion that no government should be trust remains.
Given that I’m not attempting to replicate or advocate for any specific form of government this seems prudent.
For anyone still reading and is really bored, my personal belief is that the only path forward is an society that is governed by immutable mathematical agreements.
It’s hard to describe what I have in mind in a comment as there are many interacting pieces that together create a system that requires no government, no leaders, no fake money and no ambiguity.
Because immigrants are already biased due to having to leave, and they’re still generally normal about China.
I can say the same for China
Except you literally can’t.
The government that actively tries to censor elements of news from their citizens. Yeah buddy, sure thing.
I said
“Living in the US is sufficient cause to distrust its government.”
You replied:
“I can say the same for China”
I replied:
“Except you literally can’t.” Meaning you don’t live in China so you can’t make the claim with similar level of authority
And then you made the comment I replied to, and I don’t see at all how it is connected to the line of conversation.
I guess I can’t because i don’t live in China, but you understand the point of my argument yet choose to play semantics. It’s fine
No, you said something that didn’t make sense.
Saying that the Chinese government censors news from their citizens and attempts to spread propaganda about themselves to the outside world doesn’t make sense to you?
The point is you’re making an unsourced claim which doesn’t align with the topic of conversation.