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Tibet emerged as one of countless warlord states in the chaos following the fall of the Qing, it never received international recognition and is recognized as part of China and claimed by the ROC (Taiwan). In the period when it was autonomous, it was ruled by a slaveowning theocracy with an average life expectancy in the 30’s. Whipping, mutilation, and amputation were common punishments and poverty and starvation were rampant, with people frequently having to sell their kids for food. The monks and lamas, meanwhile, lived on the backs of the people in extravagant mansions with thousands of servants.
“Free Tibet” is essentially just “The South Will Rise Again” with extra steps.
For the record, that line is more in reference to people talking about things that allegedly happened on the fediverse, like, “I saw such and such user say X.”
Here is a detailed account of what Tibet was like with sources. If there’s a specific claim that you’d like me to clarify or back up, I’d be happy to.
let’s assume that statement is true, let’s take the words of an anonymous internaut for truth :
CIA paid Taliban too, i remember reading. Does that make Taliban too just propaganda?
U.S. sponsored and sponsors many movements around the globe as long as their goals align. That money alone can’t invalidate the cause.
Like, on the contrary, U.S. sponsorship can’t validate a cause either.
i remember unsubscribing from political communities, why the heck am i responding to this comment at this hour. Completely futile! Will it change your mind? Do i really care what you will think about Tibet tomorrow?
U.S. sponsored and sponsors many movements around the globe as long as their goals align. That money alone can’t invalidate the cause.
USSC declares money is speech. You not only agree, but go further that money is truth. Naziism and Islamist fascism is truth.
Democracy, and political power, is much cheaper in smaller countries made less stable with US extortion and war. Navalny caught on video soliciting MI6 for funding to destabilize Russia. Hong Kong media mogul fomenting protests because of Americas values.
The US empire’s values are extortion, control, puppetry, and war whitewashed/described with a facade of liberal freedom. Every country is to be a pawn for the empire to the detriment of their population. The political establishment’s disdain for Americans provides no valid expectation for the empire to promote humanism elsewhere. Just propaganda.
That doesn’t make them propaganda. Tibet exists, I’ve been there. I have friends living there. The CIA paid for places to put listening equipment along China’s border. They did it in Cuba too. Is Castro propaganda?
You also deny that the Uyghurs are being disappeared and “reeducated”. The Uyghurs are being treated just like the First Nations people in America were. Their land and customs stand in the way of Chinese “progress”
Are you paid by China? Or are you just a useful idiot?
He’s a useful idiot who hates one thing so much that he will ignore any and all good things bad about that thing, and will ignore any and all bad things about something that isn’t that thing.
Tibet is completely forgotten 😢
Tibet emerged as one of countless warlord states in the chaos following the fall of the Qing, it never received international recognition and is recognized as part of China and claimed by the ROC (Taiwan). In the period when it was autonomous, it was ruled by a slaveowning theocracy with an average life expectancy in the 30’s. Whipping, mutilation, and amputation were common punishments and poverty and starvation were rampant, with people frequently having to sell their kids for food. The monks and lamas, meanwhile, lived on the backs of the people in extravagant mansions with thousands of servants.
“Free Tibet” is essentially just “The South Will Rise Again” with extra steps.
I am requesting that link in lieu of an image macro
For the record, that line is more in reference to people talking about things that allegedly happened on the fediverse, like, “I saw such and such user say X.”
Here is a detailed account of what Tibet was like with sources. If there’s a specific claim that you’d like me to clarify or back up, I’d be happy to.
The slavery enjoyers are not happy with me, it seems. If only downvotes had the power to change historical facts.
Tibet was CIA propaganda. The Dalai Lama org was directly paid by the CIA
https://lemmy.world/modlog/873048?page=1&modId=107790
Whoah. You’re ruining /c/latestagecapitalism…why aren’t you letting other leftists in the space?
let’s assume that statement is true, let’s take the words of an anonymous internaut for truth :
CIA paid Taliban too, i remember reading. Does that make Taliban too just propaganda?
U.S. sponsored and sponsors many movements around the globe as long as their goals align. That money alone can’t invalidate the cause.
Like, on the contrary, U.S. sponsorship can’t validate a cause either.
i remember unsubscribing from political communities, why the heck am i responding to this comment at this hour. Completely futile! Will it change your mind? Do i really care what you will think about Tibet tomorrow?
USSC declares money is speech. You not only agree, but go further that money is truth. Naziism and Islamist fascism is truth. Democracy, and political power, is much cheaper in smaller countries made less stable with US extortion and war. Navalny caught on video soliciting MI6 for funding to destabilize Russia. Hong Kong media mogul fomenting protests because of Americas values.
The US empire’s values are extortion, control, puppetry, and war whitewashed/described with a facade of liberal freedom. Every country is to be a pawn for the empire to the detriment of their population. The political establishment’s disdain for Americans provides no valid expectation for the empire to promote humanism elsewhere. Just propaganda.
Yes. However we can agree that all colonialism and imperialism is bad regardless of political structure in power.
Tibet was today’s Uyghurs. its US Sinophobic propaganda.
https://lemmy.world/modlog/873048?page=1&modId=107790
Amazing how little people know of the things they talk about
That doesn’t make them propaganda. Tibet exists, I’ve been there. I have friends living there. The CIA paid for places to put listening equipment along China’s border. They did it in Cuba too. Is Castro propaganda?
You also deny that the Uyghurs are being disappeared and “reeducated”. The Uyghurs are being treated just like the First Nations people in America were. Their land and customs stand in the way of Chinese “progress”
Are you paid by China? Or are you just a useful idiot?
He’s a useful idiot who hates one thing so much that he will ignore any and all good things bad about that thing, and will ignore any and all bad things about something that isn’t that thing.
Yeah, shorthand for this is Tankie
The reeducated thing is sinophobic propaganda bullshit.
I agree, that’s why it’s in quotes. In reality they’re being put in camps on the border and hidden away from the media.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps
Pinyin link below
http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2019-03/18/c_1124247196.htm