• OmegaLemmy@discuss.online
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      47 minutes ago

      Arent K-pop idols the same? The most popular musicians that focus on face than genre always have ghostwriters anyway

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      55 minutes ago

      bitch are you for real?

      For 5k, I expect her to fuck me personally after the show, while she sings an encore.

      But I assume the saudi prince money is a bit more than 5k

    • doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works
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      3 hours ago

      Next your going to tell me there are actors that don’t even write and direct their own movies! When will this senseless collaboration cease!?

      ETA: $5k for a ticket is outrageous and absurd to be fair. And Taylor isn’t a “bad bitch” nor an enjoyable act imho.

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          1 hour ago

          Fair, and Taylor job is to bounce around on stage and hype up a crowd while lip syncing to music she sometimes writes. And much like the point of movies, the end goal of all of it is to put on a production that entertains the audience.

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        3 hours ago

        If I go to a concert, I expect to hear the singers singing and instruments playing live, not miming to a recorded track. I know that Taylor writes, or is at least involved in creating, her songs, and I respect her determination to own the music she created.

        The concert tour, however, is an expensive fraud. And if you talk to professional singers, they will tell you that it is ridiculous to expect anyone to sing for so long, so frequently. The human voice just can’t maintain that.

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          2 hours ago

          Lol, okay buddy, I get that you have a very strong opinion on this. And that I’m I’m the minority of folks when I say I don’t really care. But I just don’t agree that it is “expensive fraud”. It’s an entertainment production. EDM artists, for example, are always being called frauds because they “just play their laptops”, but folks still go to it for the experience and enjoy it. Movies were considered “less than Broadway” for much the same reasons.

          I get that Taylor’s show creates the illusion of her singing the songs, and that offends you because it is just an illusion. But folks are paying for the event. You aren’t getting upset over her using stage makeup and effects, nor the myriad other ways in which the production creates “spectacle through illusions”.

          If you want to go see someone impress you with their talent, that’s cool. People being good at things is super fun to watch. I just get tired of the whole “purity of the art” argument. Sometimes things can just be fun without a catch.

          But I get that is just like “my opinion man”.

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            I get that Taylor’s show creates the illusion of her singing the songs, and that offends you because it is just an illusion. But folks are paying for the event. You aren’t getting upset over her using stage makeup and effects, nor the myriad other ways in which the production creates “spectacle through illusions”.

            Swift is a singer and the main point is to hear her singing. The other stuff is to enhance the overall experience, but if she cannot deliver on the main attraction then I would consider that fraudulent if there was the expectation to hear her singing live. You’re right, though, most people paying thousands for tickets to her show only care about the event i.e. being there.

            • doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works
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              Eh, guess we have different expectations. I see the main point, the “art” of the situation, to be the spectacle of the event. But I can definitely see your point. People definitely do leave her shows thinking they heard her sing, and some would be quite disappointed to learn otherwise.

              Anyway, now I’ve got an urge to find a concert tonight, so thanks for that! Have a good one.