• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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        3 days ago

        Where is the contradiction? Do you think a belief contrary to religious doctrine has to be religious?

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          3 days ago

          Yes, cause that’s what the dictionary means: belief contrary to the doctrine of the religious system the belief is embedded in.

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                2 days ago

                What definition am I coming up with here?

                Are you saying the existence of a god is not part of the doctrine of any theistic religion?

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                  using the word heretic to describe an atheist. It’s just not what it’s about. You’re not part of a theistic religion if you don’t believe in God. And if you’re not part of it, you won’t be a heretic.

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                    2 days ago

                    Again, what definition am I coming up with here?

                    Atheism is contrary to theistic religious doctrine- namely, the doctrine that a god or gods exist. That’s literally the definition of heresy as I provided.

                    What did I invent?

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      On the contrary, from Wikipedia:

      Heresy is any belief or theory that is strongly at variance with established beliefs or customs, particularly the accepted beliefs or religious law of a religious organization.[1][2] A heretic is a proponent of heresy.[1]

      Heresy is distinct from apostasy, which is the explicit renunciation of one’s religion, principles, or cause;

      Atheism is not heresy. A heretic is a type of believer. You can argue you meant the colloquial usage as “divergent thought”, but that’s not the usage I used.

      Either way, the point stands: not all Islam is the same thing, and the Tehran regime quite clearly has an easier time stomaching cooperation with secularists than with Sunnis.

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        3 days ago

        Stop what… breathing? I will in four years. And you and all the other people who hate me can get together and throw a big party.