• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    3 days ago

    Where is the contradiction? Do you think a belief contrary to religious doctrine has to be religious?

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      3 days ago

      Yes, cause that’s what the dictionary means: belief contrary to the doctrine of the religious system the belief is embedded in.

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            2 days ago

            What definition am I coming up with here?

            Are you saying the existence of a god is not part of the doctrine of any theistic religion?

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              2 days ago

              using the word heretic to describe an atheist. It’s just not what it’s about. You’re not part of a theistic religion if you don’t believe in God. And if you’re not part of it, you won’t be a heretic.

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                Again, what definition am I coming up with here?

                Atheism is contrary to theistic religious doctrine- namely, the doctrine that a god or gods exist. That’s literally the definition of heresy as I provided.

                What did I invent?

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                  2 days ago

                  ok man, I tried, the dictionary was of no help, maybe consult wikipedia or turn to a priest. He will also tell you that an atheist is not considered a heretic. And if you go on like this with him, he’ll might make you a heretic. But only! if you are a follower of his religion already. Otherwise he just won’t give a flying fuck.

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                    2 days ago

                    I literally provided a link to a Christian website talking about how atheists are heretics.

                    And “atheist” and “heretic” are literally the same word in Arabic, which means that, at minimum, 2 in 8 people believe that atheists are heretics.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulhid