So I have an Inspiron 3847 and it has a 3.5’ 1TB hard drive. Sorry, I’m not at home right now and forget which brand.

I was hoping to upgrade to a SSD and therewithin lies the problem. I can’t find any 3.5 SSDs.

I’m very confused. But would it be possible to connect a 2.5’ SSD to the same Sata connectors my current (old) hard drive uses? I’m unsure which version of sata it is.

My PC was built in 2014 if that helps.

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldOP
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    21 days ago

    And the sata connections will work as if it were 3.5" drives? To power and read data?

    Edit: upvoted. I wrote this before your edit.

    • comador @lemmy.world
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      21 days ago

      Edited again and added a corsair cheap option that I personally use on mine. Works with any sata power and data cables.

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldOP
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        21 days ago

        OOOOOOOHHH!!! I like that one. If I’m understanding correctly, it fits 2 drives of 2.5" in the same space that 1 single 3.5" HDD drive would have fit? But It looks like it does also use both ends of the sata cable, to chain them together, master and slave. So even though it does save space, it doesn’t allow additional drives to be added with the slave end of the connector.

        Is this right?

        • comador @lemmy.world
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          21 days ago

          Exactly. I have 2 x WD Blue 2TB drives in mine that use the same cables as a regular Sata hdd (primary and secondary actually as I also have an m2 drive). Heat isn’t an issue and they both work in that corsair caddy perfectly.

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldOP
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        21 days ago

        Oh, one other question…and I know this goes against everything I just asked, but I’m just imagining possibilities.

        Could I use THIS CABLE from the internal where I normally connect to the hard drive. Instead of connecting directly to the hard drive, I connect to that cable extention. Then, I run the cable extention to the OUTSIDE of my desktop PC, and lay the hard drive on top connected to the extension?

        So from my computers perspective, it’s not an external hard drive. My PC is trying to boot from the internal hard drive, just as normal.

        But if I turn my PC off, I could take easily remove the hard drive, and now connect a DIFFERERNT hard drive, with a different OS on it, and my PC would just be like “Ok, here’s that other OS” and then I turn the PC off again, disconnect that drive, and reconnect the first drive, and my PC will be like “Ok, here’s that first OS again”.

        Essentially allowing me to swap SSD’s/OS’s as long as the power is off first. And yes, I realize that means I would have to install the OS onto the new SSD before I connect it. But once that’s installed, then it’s just a swapping bananza!

        I could even buy a bunch of smaller SSDs for cheap, and just try OS’s for the sake of trying them without fear of losing erasing my main daily OS with me being stupid and formatting something I shouldn’t have. Because the drive wasn’t even connected when I did that, so it CAN’T get erased!

        Am I mad scientist here, or is that all possible? And yes, I realize it COMPLETELY invalidates the bracket use you just suggested. Well…not entirely. I’d still use a storage slave internally.

        • comador @lemmy.world
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          21 days ago

          While possible, the issue is the molex connectors from your power supply as they often have an overlap which would butt up against the data cable and it may not fit snuggly.

          You’re better off either using esata (most systems have an estata connector) with an external esata caddy, but if you do not then I would actually recommend a sata to usb caddy like this:

          https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Tool-free-Enclosure-Optimized-EC-UASP/dp/B00OJ3UJ2S

          Basically just install any 2.5" SSD into it and plugin into the back of your pc usb port. It’s not as fast as esata or direct sata, but great for backup and archive.

          • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldOP
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            21 days ago

            I don’t think that idea would work, for exactly the reason you said at the end. It’s not as fast as sata. I would be leaving it like this as my daily setup, and I recently tried a linux usb persistant drive. It’s usb 3, but based on issues I had, everyone said I’d have been better off with usb 3…which it was. But the time to install did not reflect that. To install the persistant usb stick, it took about 5-6 hours. When everyone online says an internal sata hard drive instalation takes 20 minutes.

            Basically I have a raspberry pi, and it’s not good enough to be a daily pc…but I DO love the idea that I swap sd cards, and it’s a TOTALLY different os. I love that. But Raspberry pi is arm. I want to do it with my full pc using sata.

            I feel very mad scientist right now.

                  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldOP
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                    21 days ago

                    So you install the caddy inside, and then the hard drive can slide in and out like an old NES cartridge, without the need to open your case, or use tools or screwdrivers. It’s just push and slide, turn on PC. Turn off PC. Push and slide out. Push new drive in. Turn on PC, and now it’s a different OS.

                    I even have an unused slot on my PC to do this. I just have to remove a metal plate. So hopefully thats easy.

                    You have no idea how excited you just made me. It’s like a whole new world of possibilities. I could install an OS on my main drive, then install another OS on the secondary drive. Turn off the pc, pull the first, move the second to first, and now I’m trying a new OS.

                    And if I don’t like it, I still have my main, unaffected, on a different hard drive, just a quick swap away.

                    Plus…I have an excuse to nerd out over 2.5" hard drives now.

              • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldOP
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                18 days ago

                Ok, so THAT particular seller doesn’t ship to USA.

                I found THIS which appears to be the same thing. But all the ones I see only support up to Windows 7. Not windows 10/11, and not linux.

                Am I missing something, or should those OS’s support my linked product just fine?

                • comador @lemmy.world
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                  18 days ago

                  “No drivers or software required, supports hot swap, plug and play.”

                  Meaning, it’s OS irrelevant. The reason it shows “support up to windows 7” is just because it’s an older unit, but will be perfect for your older rig.

                  Edit: Buy it, never look back, enjoy swapping operating systems!

                  as an alternative, here’s one that you just push the drive into and eject out, plus it supports newer sata modes:

                  https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Universal-Tray-Less-Backplane-Enclosure/dp/B00M3WNWB2

                  or like the one we are discussing

                  https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Universal-Tray-Less-Backplane-Enclosure/dp/B00475DQ6Y

                  Note the reason these are more rare now a days is because of higher capacity drives. No need for most so now these are usually geared towards system integration and testing beds. Still, it’s perfect for dual boot.

                  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldOP
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                    18 days ago

                    I saw one a few days ago where I was looking. It supported SSD and HDD, just like the second one you linked on amazon. But while I was reading, it said the setup had to be 1 SSD and 1 HDD.

                    The second one you linked on amazon, could I do 2 SSD’s? I see nothing about requiring types. Just that it supports both.

                    For me, it wouldn’t even be “dual boot”. It would be 1 drive, 1 OS. The second drive would be pure storage. And I’d have multiple drives with different OS’s. I’d even have a smaller one just for test purposes. Flash this or that linux os to a small drive, test it for like a day, or a week, and always have my main drives never even touched. I don’t trust myself constantly repartitioning to not erase a drive. If it’s not even connected, it can’t be accidentally formatted.

                    Now as far actual drives go. I was thinking THIS ONE unless you know of some recognizable brand being sold through their own official amazon or ebay store, and 4TB or higher, while not being absurdly expensive.