• Holyginz@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    If you unable or unwilling to take care of your child to keep them from making a scene and bothering people your child has no business being on a plane.

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        11 months ago

        I know how they work: if the parents don’t take it at the plane, it will not annoy other people

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        11 months ago

        You sound like an entitled parent.

        It’s fine to want and to have kids. But if they are at an age where they are going to make an awful ruckus and you bring them on an airplane for several hours then you’re being a selfish piece of shit to everyone else.

        And no, it’s not the kid’s fault. It’s the parent’s fault for putting everyone in that situation. Just because your kids are disruptive to you doesn’t mean you have to make everyone else suffer

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          11 months ago

          I am not a parent. But if somebody is entitled, then it is the person that thinks that every public space should cater to their needs only. It’s a baby, they sometimes cry. You can’t do anything about it. What should the parents do? Never leave the house with the child, because its crying could annoy an adult?

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            11 months ago

            What should the parents do? Never leave the house with the child, because its crying could annoy an adult?

            Depends on where you’re going. The park? Feel free to bring the baby. A movie theater? Doing that makes you an asshole since you can hire a sitter for an evening. Going on vacation to an area close enough to drive? Go ahead and bring the baby. Going on a plane for a weeklong vacation in Hawaii? You’re being an asshole to the others on the plane.

            It’s not that hard to get.

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              11 months ago

              Yes, it depends on the situation. A Movie Theater needs absolute silence during all of the movie, but a plane don’t. If the child doesn’t cry during the whole flight, I don’t see a problem with bringing them along.

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        11 months ago

        I know how children work. I also know they are the parents responsibility. I find it amusing how many parent with no control over their kids are trying to come after me like they should be bent over backwards for.

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          11 months ago

          Depends on the age really. A child under one who’s wailing uncontrollably might be different than a misbehaving four year old. For instance my six month old couldn’t take a car ride without losing his shit and no amount of consolation would work. So we aren’t taking him anywhere, obviously. I have no idea how he’d take a flight and I’m not willing to test it out. Now if there was suddenly an issue with say, extended family that required us to get across country fast then I’m sorry, you gotta deal homey. It’s no fucking fun for me either.

          The short of all this is you don’t necessarily know where people are at in their lives or why they are traveling and everyone is different. Kids aren’t one size fits all or work the same way for everyone – and a flight isn’t like going to a movie theater.

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            11 months ago

            In one of my other comments I mentioned no one with intelligence expects a child to be perfectly silent at all times. However if you know your child cannot sit still or remain at least moderately quiet, then it has no business being on a plane. And of course there are nuances to this, but the number of parents who seem to think the world should conform to them for having a child is frankly gross. I am not a fan of kids and i hage no desire to bring any into the world for a numbrt of reasons, first of which is i understand the responsibilu involved in having kids. Drive if your kid isn’t able to handle being on a plane. Simple as that.

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              11 months ago

              I’ve never been on a flight where a child has been the issue. I suspect when most of you say children, and what this meme is referring to is Babies. Children can be mitigated and distracted. By five most can be reasoned with. Babies are a completely different situation. I can tell you from experience, it’s not fun to be the parent of a wailing baby you can’t calm down. I can’t imagine what that’s like on a flight - and you might not know what they’ll do until they get there. - They might just fall asleep! Flying is a unique experience. In those cases all you can hope for is the patience and understanding of those around you.

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        Of course not. Because I understand what my responsibilities as a parent would be and neither my partner or I want to deal with that. Those expecting people to automatically love their babies or kids and just be ok with whatever they do are inconsiderate at best. And as someone who has had to fly a decent amount, very few things are more disruptive than a screaming or out of control child. And I can tell the ones who immediately started going after me in the comments are likely parents that see no problem subjecting other passengers to their children. And their responses don’t change anything either.

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        11 months ago

        Duh. The number of people who expect to be catered to because they had a child is just pathetic. Grow up and take responsibility for your own kid.

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        11 months ago

        Lmao, it was an option to keep your mouth shut and not have people realize your ignorance and lack of self awareness but here you are. I dont care about self absorbed peoples opinion. Educate yourself so next time you have a worthwhile response, then maybe there’s a discussion to be had.