• Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee
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    32 minutes ago

    This is why 20 years ago we had CDs and ripped them to hard drives. Streaming is a sham when you pay continually for access.

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      2 hours ago

      TIL: 20 years ago was just yesterday. Go buy CDs! They still make them!

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        My whole music library is local and DRMless. I find CDs highly impractical in the age of cheap high-capacity storage. I would rip them anyway, as using normal copies is just far more convenient, after which they’d need to either waste space, be resold or be thrown out. If I were insistent on paying and there was no DRMless option, I’d rather buy a DRMed copy corresponding to the one I downloaded.

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        Of course, but it’s worth pointing out that PCs phased out the addition of ROM drives, which allowed the layperson to rip their content. Naturally, this allowed Apple and ilk to introduce streaming access, as though it was a fucking boon. No CD/DVD-Rom, no ports, just an enshittified processor, display, and a cloud. Because THAT’S WHAT WE ARE TELLING YOU YOU WANT.

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          Enshittified processor? What are you talking about? Processors are vastly better than they used to be, have much wider functionality, and they’re cheaper than they used to be.

          PCs got rid of disc drives because nobody used them and they used up a huge amount of space.

          USB disc drives exist. They are cheap. There’s nothing stopping you from using CDs.

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            They may be, but you’re missing the larger perspective by harping about the processor.

            When the technology was ubiquitous, it didn’t require specialized equipment ie USB disc drives, because the necessary gear was already built in. Which means more people had access and more sharing was happening.

            Of course there’s nothing stopping ME, I already know about CDs. But ask the average teenager where they get their music. Ask them how they would share an album. Do any amount of critical thinking about this, and my original premise holds true. But nah, you’ll probably revert back to internally screaming that some guy on the internet insulted your processor speed, because THAT is the point.

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      1 hour ago

      It’s much cheaper if you have a varied taste though.

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        lol, ok. You do realize that if you OWN your media you can just hand over a thumbdrive or send the files directly to a friend? CDs are also cheap to burn. You can build an entire library for the cost of a couple months’ streaming access.

        You are parroting marketing and those words are hollow.

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          Sure you could do all that but that depends on your friends having the same music taste and also seems like a pain over just paying a few bucks. Ripping CDs is also pretty damn annoying.

          I currently have 6728 liked songs on Spotify. Assuming the average album is around 11 songs per album that would be slightly more than 611 albums. CD albums seem to cost anywhere between 100 and 300 kr, so lets say they cost 150 kr.

          150 kr * 611 = 91 650 kr.
          Spotify Premium is 116 kr per month.
          91 650 / 116 ≈ 770.
          770 / 12 ≈ 64 years.

          Could I get many of those albums used? Yeah probably.
          Could I borrow a few disks from friends? Yeah maybe.
          Could I even find all the albums in my country? No, I would have to. import some of the more niche ones.
          Could I pirate them? Yeah, sure but that would be very very time consuming and illegal (not that I care about the last part) and we aren’t discussing piracy anyways.

          With all that in mind lets just half the amount of years (fairly generously). It’s still a long ass time and the time and monetary invesment it would take to procure all these disks would be that it would very high. My time is also worth something and doing that seems like a gigantic waste of time I could be spending actually listening to music.

          I don’t give a jack shit if I don’t own the media afterwards. I’m paying for a service and I get a service. I don’t see the problem.

          If you don’t think it’s worthwhile to you then just don’t use it.

          You are parroting Lemmy nonsense and those words are hollow.

          P.S. If I am gonna burn CDs why not just pirate.

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      I think they are fine with that since you presumably don’t pay then anyways. You just cost them money.

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        And I’m perfectly fine costing them money, I would pay, were they not enshittifying music streaming and paying peanuts to the artists.

        Actually, I might try and find a new patch if they block this one to keep costing them money out of spite.

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          Yeah, sure free is nice. But complaining about it imo comes across as pretty selfish.

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        1. Grab a few moles…
        2. Axe a knife into their stones…
        3. Twist the knife to get rid of those…
        4. Remove the moleskin with a spoon…
        5. 6, 7, 8, GUAC!!!
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    Remember folks you are paying your enemy to fuck you…

    then do pika face…

    maybe learn the lesson: corpo is your enemy, don’t pay them UNLESS THEY EARNED IT.

    these slop cloud services are really stepping out of line and there is a solution that’s better anyway.