• NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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            If you are suggesting not voting then that has no impact and neither does 3rd party.

            That’s based on YOUR perspective. If your goal is simply to win every election then you are correct, but if your intent is to show that you will still vote, but not for the candidates or platform that the mainstream establishment is proposing to you than voting third-party is far better than not voting. Additionally, if people actually acted less defeatist before caving to the establishment and instead voted for a third party, then there would be a far better chance of the third party getting traction as the Democrat party Absorbs the Republican party.

            Also, depending on what you want, voting for a third-party candidate may just better represent you. That’'s more than enough to vote third party. The absolute bare minimum political action you can choose to express your political values is to vote. Actions tend to speak louder than words, anyways. When people fail to do that, then It’s clear that they don’t even know what they want.

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        What makes you think you can’t do anything about it?

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            2 months ago

            Go into politics — become part of the problem so you can become part of the solution.

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              Yeah, specially in the US where money rules the actual debate. If you don’t have a few millions to spare on a fancy election parade… Don’t even bother.

              That’s way politics is the war of the rich and why all multi billion dollar companies feel safe in the US.

  • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    They should really talk about this when there isn’t a possibly world changing election going on. It’s almost like they’re doing this to get people to waste their vote on a third party. Talk ranked choice voting the day after the election and don’t shut up about it until the government listens.

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      I’m a pretty far left progressive and I get downvoted for saying this, but unfortunately I’ve seen firsthand the Russian propaganda (your vote doesn’t matter; both sides are terrible; protest vote to a third party; don’t vote for genocide) being basically indistinguishable from a lot of actual progressive social media posts. Of course, all these things are arguably or definitely true, depending on your circumstance, many things need to change ASAP, it feels like shit voting for someone who supports some horrible things, and yet following any of this advice (particularly in a swing state) supports Russian and conservative interests. It’s frustrating seeing a lot of friends posting things I technically agree with if we were discussing them privately, but post them in public social media posts which essentially make them mouthpieces for neocons who spread the exact same rhetoric to younger voters by appealing to their altruism. Most of them ARE still voting for Harris and understand the “lesser of two evils” thing, but who knows how many people they have convinced to not vote, or throw it away, by contributing to the “everything sucks” echo chamber.

      Look, the train is heading full speed toward the edge of a cliff, but we can at least try to slow it down with what we have. We have the option of actually using the next four years to attempt to gradually unfuck things, or we can just give up and wait until things are even more fucked four years from now before getting angry again that the next person on whatever “the left” means then represents our interests even less than the previous candidate. Realistically, this is how it’s always going to be, because the majority of Americans don’t really care about this stuff until a few months before an election, but at the bare minimum it’s so important to make people realize we need to make the most out of even a small modicum of what we have that we can work with.

      • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 months ago

        Well it’s either vote for the candidate least likely to fuck the world up, or possibly don’t get the option to vote at all for next election.

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          It is possible but do you believe it is a strong possibility, and if so does that make Thomas Crooks a martyr?

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            No but I think Trump could’ve ended up being martyred instead. Trump needs to lose on the ballot to discredit his ideals, otherwise the MAGA movement will have him as a symbol to make a more permanent political movement.

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    I voted third party and couldn’t be happier with my choice. The genocide supporters have already become the fascist that they claim they’re trying to protect you from.