In order to make Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 enjoyable, Saber Interactive had to make the Space Marines less like …
  • DerisionConsultingEnglish
    2·
    20 hours ago

    Humans aren’t “the good guys” in 40K, just like humans aren’t “the good guys” in Starship Trooper.
    Walter White was a piece of shit.
    The cops on the Shield are pieces of shit.
    Tony Soprano was a piece of shit.
    House was a piece of shit.
    Tyler Durden was a piece of shit.
    Jim from the office was a piece of shit.

    Someone being the main character doesn’t make them a good person. Sometimes a story is told from a different perspective, in order to see something new in a darker light.

    That being said, there is definitely an issue with people not quite getting the point, and attracting or encouraging the wrong crowd.

    I remember a few times choosing to stop playing some people, because halfway through I would pay a little more attention to the glimpses of a tattoo, the patches on their battle foam cases, or what they have up in their garage.

  • count_dongulus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    92·
    1 month ago

    The premise is pretty silly and indicates the author doesn’t really understand the history of 40k’s lore. Between real chaos gods corrupting any civilization too psychically involved with the warp and civilizations entirely unable to be reasoned with like the Necron or Tyranids, the imperium of man’s fanatical xenophobic culture is pretty reasonable. The only civilization that could have perpetually positive relations with humanity, the Tau, are on a path towards artificial general intelligence which humanity fears could lead to another near-extinction of all life.

    The emperor didn’t even want to be worshipped. That only really became tolerated and encouraged after the horus heresy once he was locked away onto the golden throne, and then-fanatics had nobody to keep them in check as they pushed their own narrative.

    One could argue that humanity could welcome xenos into the empire while remaining at war with the other civilizations, but I tend to think they find it much safer to not take chances when other races have natural affinity to the warp and could be vectors of further chaos corruption leading to extinction.

    • greedytacothief@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      1 month ago

      In a way, 40k is a post apocalypse story(there’s arguably a couple of cosmically apocalyptic events). The good guys already lost. This is what’s left still struggling, not to build anew, but to survive a little longer.

      • count_dongulus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 month ago

        That’s a great way to put it. After every apocalyptic near-extinction, humanity is driven further and further into darkness in the hopes of self-preservation. Ironically, at the cost of their own humanity.

        • greedytacothief@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 month ago

          I think I’d like to count the age of strife, the great crusade, and the hours heresy as all being different apocalypse. One ended the age of human technology, the next ended human diversity, and the last ended their hope?/legacy?