• PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
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    3 hours ago

    Ah yes, inaccurate or misleading claims like [checks notes] easily verifiable campaigns of genocide by the Soviets?

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      3 hours ago

      And if you’d talked about their actual ethnic cleansing campaigns you’d have a point, or if it was a point worth bringing up at all in this context of deliberately helping the execution of Generalplan Ost.

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        You mean like how… the Soviets deliberately helped the execution of Generalplan Ost in assisting Nazi Germany to take massive amounts of Polish lebensraum with plentiful amounts of untermensch for them to massacre?

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          2 hours ago

          Are you arguing that Stalin was deliberately helping the plans for the Nazi conquest of the USSR by agreeing to partition a country the Nazis needed no help to conquer?

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            Are you arguing that Stalin was deliberately helping the plans for the Nazi conquest of the USSR

            No, just deliberately helping the plans for the Nazi conquest of the ‘east’ that wasn’t under the USSR’s control. Or was Generalplan Ost only bad insofar as the Soviet Union was targeted, and the Poles deserved their untermensch fate?

            by agreeing to partition a country the Nazis needed no help to conquer?

            ‘Needed no help to conquer’

            Fuck’s sake. The Soviet invasion from the east destroyed the Polish military’s entire defence plan. Is this really where we’re at for justification of the Soviets literally assisting the Nazi invasion of a country the Nazis openly wanted to exterminate? “The Nazis would have conquered those filthy Poles anyway”? Are you being fucking serious right now?

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              I didnt say it was okay, Pug, I said Poland was literally doomed and that’s a fact from the moment the French refused to leave the Line and the British refused to put troops in Poland before the invasion. Their plans meant nothing when they wouldn’t work because they simply didn’t have the tools to win.

              I also really don’t like defending Stalin’s obvious class treason and rampant incompetence, and it’s not like you’re wrong that he’s a mass murderer, Pug, it’s just that it’s fucked up and revisionist to compare the Soviet displacement programs to the attempted extermination of half the world.