At least on the communities i follow. Every so often I come across a thread where i recognize most of the users there even in the big communities with over 30k members and I haven’t even been on lemmy that long.
At least on the communities i follow. Every so often I come across a thread where i recognize most of the users there even in the big communities with over 30k members and I haven’t even been on lemmy that long.
This is a good way to think about it. I’ve also been trying my hand at being a bit nicer to tankies. Oops… I mean communists.
They’ll come around, eventually. (Tankies I mean)
So, I’m finding things reversed, I spent most of my time on reddit going at it with idiot conservatives, just blasting through their talking points and not being polite at all.
Tankies are different because they … it’s not selfishness, it’s not just seeing themselves as the ultimate victim of “evil libruls!”, they really believe the world would be better under their fairy tale. It’s even different from a lot of religious nutjobs I’ve met, who can’t wait for their God to come back and burn everyone who didn’t appreciate how awesome they specifically were, like their dad who worked at the CIA doing Kung-Fu.
Fortunately the tankies have weak arguments, the best of which is “China #1 now!!!”.
I’ll just come out and say it: there is an enormous difference between a communist and a “tanky”. For one, only one of those actually believes in communism, and for another one of them is capable of rational discussion without resorting to the “your (sic) stoopid (sp), nuh uh YOU are!” schtick. I have found it more protective of my sanity to block the other type.
Hmm I don’t know which communists you’re debating on here but there are quite a few who i can say have made me reconsider my position enough times. I don’t know whether that’s because of how good they are at debating or how inherently strong their points are but i would be inclined to assume the latter. Maybe you’re just arguing with the blabbermouthed “cAPitALism Bad” folks
Some are just ‘west bad! China good!’, the last one was actually trying but I’d read Das capital and simply felt base Marxism was hopelessly outdated as a darwinism era construct social model, obsoleted by game theory and other more modern behavioral frameworks.
I’m a moderate centrist on most issues, I think we need more social support systems to counter balance the power of corporations and the rich, I just understand a powerful government isn’t a panacea, you’re just shifting the power and therefore corruption to a different body.