• Pacattack57@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Anytime someone claims to be American but mentions third party candidate when voting, I highly doubt their citizenship or whether they are fit to vote at all.

    A third party candidate hasn’t won the presidency EVER. A vote for 3rd party is not only a wasted vote, but more often than not it siphons enough votes from the majority candidate to allow the minority candidate to win.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 months ago

      A third party candidate hasn’t won the presidency EVER. A vote for 3rd party is not only a wasted vote, but more often than not it siphons enough votes from the majority candidate to allow the minority candidate to win.

      Lincoln. Lincoln wasn’t on the ballot across the South and won.

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      Anytime someone claims to be American but mentions third party candidate when voting, I highly doubt their citizenship or whether they are fit to vote at all.

      “Anytime someone doesn’t vote how I want, they shouldn’t be able to vote.” Damn we’re really busting out the “If you don’t vote for who I want, you’re a communist!” playbook from Fox News?

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      It doesn’t “siphon” votes from the “majority” candidate. You’re assuming that the 3rd party voters would vote for the Dem candidate if the 3rd party candidate didn’t exist but most likely those people just wouldn’t vote at all if that was the case.

      I am not fit to vote and neither are you but it doesn’t matter because there is no voter fitness test and instituting one would be anti-democratic what are you a republican?

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      3 months ago

      My vote is wasted regardless because I don’t live in a swing state. There’s a better chance that my vote will help get a third party on the map next time than than that it will affect the outcome. Unless you forsee an outcome where Illinois goes red and that’s the pivotal state. That fantasy is far more disconnected from reality than anything I believe or aim to achieve.

      You can question my citizenship all you want. I regard the US government with hostility and distrust, and I didn’t chose to be born here. I’d rather aim to be a citizen of the world. I watched both parties gleefully participate in the mass slaughter of hundreds of thousands of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan while most people didn’t give a shit because it was out of sight and out of mind, and it was “ok” because the Democrats were slaughtering people “the right way.” I remember when they promised to protect whistleblowers and end mass surveillance and then continued it and they hunted Snowden to the ends of the earth for revealing their crimes. I realized back then that the ideology of lesser evilism was complete bullshit and would keep us trapped with the same policies forever.