(I didn’t, largely since I’ve never watched a single episode, but the psychic damage and whiplash of Wholesome Pony Show having said this line was too fuckn much for me)
EDIT: More replies than upbears now. It’s probably an official struggle session now (although most of it is that one person). One must imagine SisyFEWs happy.
I think a lot of the backlash was rooted in misogyny. “Oh no, how dare men like girl thing”
Remember that a big chunk of the historical fandom was weirdo fascist edgelords who wanted to fuck the ponies and wrote horny violent fanfics about them. One of the longest fanfics about anything (FOE:PH) is basically “Made in Abyss but it’s ponies and set in a post apocalyptic wasteland.”
Oh God, I remember hearing talk about how terrible this was and having a peek out of morbid curiosity. I made it maybe a quarter of the way through the first chapter before I had to dip out at the exhaustively described fever dream of what MRAs imagine a society run by feminists would look like.
Wasn’t there also a Fallout crossover fanfic that completely missed the humor aspect that was always present in Fallout and was sort of edgy for edginess’ sake? I never read it, but its fandom was pretty
at a glance.
That was all of the Fallout crossover fanfics
The most infamous of those is the one I mentioned, Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons, but the original Fallout Equestria was also pretty bad just much, much more tame than FOE:PH was.
You said it’s related to Made in Abyss so I take it there’s a lot of
factor too. ![lea-why lea-why](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/00db7736-d9d4-46a3-acee-5d4ec587ea2f.png)
It predates it, but it is similar in tone and grotesqueness. Although thinking about the full depth of the problems with Made in Abyss that I covered exhaustively in a post last night, FOE:PH isn’t as bad. It’s a gratuitous, edgy spectacle that handles problematic themes poorly, but it’s merely making an exploitative spectacle of them while Made in Abyss is even worse. AFAIK most of the characters in Project Horizons are adults though, though I think there’s some nonce stuff in there too.
I have no idea why you read it, but I assume it was something like this as a situation.
I compulsively consume problematic slop, and was even worse about it a decade ago when I was in the process of rebuilding my schema from the ground up after dismantling twenty years of calcified repression brainworms, which is around when I read part of the then-incomplete FOE:PH specifically because of its reputation. Made in Abyss has to be the only thing that’s actually made me sick to watch, however. I can’t emphasize enough how even the people who condemn it undersell just how vile it is; it’s in a league of awful all of its own. Like I feel even my “Made in Abyss is the worst thing anyone has ever made” rant is too soft, because I couldn’t stomach really dredging up the specifics.
It’s also written for 5-year-olds though.
Mario and Pokemon are for children too and nobody gives a shit if you like them as an adult
Mario is the tale of a union man taking mushrooms and rescuing his side piece from a human trafficking dinosaur. Pokemon is about a kid winning a series of cockfights and taking down the mafia. For kids? Hardly.![morshupls morshupls](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/c02af2c2-f4a1-4d6e-bf78-2e0565dc10ca.gif)
Tell me how good Dragon Tales is next.
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You clearly don’t actually know anything about the show and you’re just going off of either your own assumptions or what other people have told you. I’d explain why you’re wrong, but I’ve dealt with enough people like you to know you’d just double down. You don’t have any good reason for believing what you believe. You just want an excuse to feel superior to other people.
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There’s the misogyny! Thank you for helping prove the point of my original comment![Care-Comrade Care-Comrade](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/a4b3e07f-7bad-42d1-beb7-a026e0191c37.png)
As @[email protected] already put it in this thread, the response to that show in retrospect does say a lot about the people making that response.
There’s plenty of room to criticize its ideology and its political messages, but “X IS FOR BABIES” dogma is just… exhausting. And feeds into so much bullying-adjacent reactionary hog shit.![disgost disgost](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/49ed25ea-2634-410b-936f-9ca8b9b767ae.png)
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Jeez, someone needs a reeducation in the magic of friendship and harmony…
In one line you managed to present an adolescent-like preoccupation with performative adulthood in a bullying way and added some misogyny!![congratulations congratulations](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/26e3a6ce-963e-4b86-8dbf-53995af2cfba.gif)
No, I spelt it the non-sexist way. Histerical. Treatlords, begone.
The way you’re presenting your “X IS FOR BABIES” dogma could be plucked right out of a grade school cafeteria from about ten years ago.
It really does seem immature to be that mad about people enjoying something that has insufficient “mature” blood, gore, or sexual violence for your tastes.
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Oh, you just posted this too:
THAT KID’S LUNCHBOX HAS TOO MANY STICKERS IT IS TIME TO BULLY THEM IN A VERY MATURE WAY![frothingfash frothingfash](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97c0eab6-88fe-4105-b2ca-63846b1258f2.png)
I take it this was written by a “baby,” too?
Honestly, unless you’re talking about MLP as it existed before or after the 2010s, I just don’t see how you can conclude that so confidently. Friendship is Magic was better written than half of the shows that adults are supposed to like.
“X IS FOR BABIES” dogma. Not even once.![debord-tired debord-tired](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/3bc736dc-1b61-4129-8009-a5fe1e6ecf18.png)
I didnt watch all seasons of it but the first 3 seasons are a pretty fun kind hearted show. Gonna finish it one of these days.
The end of Season 3 just feels like such a great place to stop watching. Twilight learned all about friendship and became a princess, The End. Perfect. 10/10.
It was originally written by the same person who wrote Powerpuff Girls and a lot of the humor is similar in the sense that it appeals to both kids and older viewers.
This just in: Lauren Faust being Craig McCracken’s wife was a conspiracy all along; she is actually his drag persona
I thought she was a writer for that as well though?
I had tried to edit with a clarification that she wrote for both series but that McCracken was the actual creator of Powerpuff Girls, but maybe that didn’t load on your end.
Ah, ok. In that case I should clarify that while she wasn’t officially the show creator, I do think a lot of the writing and jokes are similar between the two.
From what I’ve seen, you’re absolutely right about that.