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“Some humans?” I want to know more about that part.
The other humans vote for Trump.
“Lookin’ big today. Might start a fight.”
Are mirrors really a good test of self awareness?
Aren’t they just testing the understanding of reflections?
Self awareness in regards of mirrors is that the subject realises that the object in the mirror is actually themself.
It’s the counter scenario I’m questioning.
Does not recognising oneself in a mirror really imply that the subject is NOT self aware?
If I have difficulty recognising my projected shadow with a 5s delay. Am I still self aware?
Does not recognising oneself in a mirror really imply that the subject is NOT self aware?
No, and I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone argue otherwise. However, we generally assume animals lack self-awareness unless we have a good reason to do otherwise.
That’s fair. My cat has no reaction to himself in a mirror but we know cats can react in a mirror test.
Does he lack self awareness or not?
all animals are waaay more aware than we realize (or can bear to realize), but it’s going to take forever to officially prove because we have to start from the place of them needing to prove that they:
may also have an internal awareness of their own bodies
all animals are waaay more aware than we realize
All animals? That’s a very big claim, do you have any supporting evidence?
My dog is very aware that if his self isn’t given belly scratches by me at any given time, he has to start scratching at me with his paw until I do.
He’s gotten me in the eye like three times. Little bastard. He’s lucky he’s so cute.
This is gonna be unpopular but it’s kinda hard to hop on that train when most animals fight their own reflection in a mirror. It’s even like half and half for dogs
Edit: I love dogs and animals, I just think we should be realistic and not go too crazy on the subject from our natural love of them
My friend’s dog was extremely self aware, more than most dogs I would say (not an expert), but would still try and eat its own poop.
Some humans are into that as well tho
The line between fetish and mental illness can sometimes be blurry. Of course, that means some folks are just one sex worker shitting on their face away from mental wellness.
I fully agree with you. We try to prove animals have deep self awareness by human standards. The thing is that animals don’t think like humans do, so it’s difficult to prove it but I’m very sure most of them are self-aware
When my cat looks at her reflection and makes noises at the “other cat” on the other side if the mirror, I’m pretty sure she’s not aware of how she looks like
But my cat completely ignores his reflection, but would never ignore another cat
Cats rely more on their acute hearing to be aware of who is in the room. I’m sure if you play a cat video on TV it will get a reaction
