• PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    First off right, that was not you, my mistake.

    legitimizing war as a matter of politics

    War is legitimate manners of doing politics, nothing whataboutist with that. We might discuss if it should or shouldn’t be, but the fact is that it absolutely is and always was, i don’t know what is so controversial in this. Even if some countries like USA or Russia think it’s not a war when you don’t delcare it. By “conflict” i meant “armed conflict”, including border skirmishes, putches, or USA wrecking countries for 20+ years without officially declaring war.

    Yeah. If you say so.

    Nice to see you support national, class etc. oppression, because that is what you do after saying no war is ever just.

    Therefore, I’m surprised it’s not more than that.

    Hah and you jest you don’t see war as legit politic!

    Politics are very different today than in the time of Bonaparte

    Material conditions change and the politics with them, obviously. Btw the Vienna congress still shaping current politics and events to a certain extent.

    I will leave the rest of idealist liberal nonsense without comment, maybe except one thing:

    Europe for instance lives in peace since the end of Nazi Germany, which is probably the longest period since, I don’t know, like ever?

    Having cold war with two nuclear powers and iron curtain probably had something to do with this. As is the first time Europe was mostly united militarily under NATO as de facto US protectorate. Also not very nice of you to igore half of the world pillaged by USA and their european pals, especially since 1991.

    So as every imperialist, you write a lot of words without meaning to ultimately end at the position of defending pax americana. Coincidentally with above ironical “If you say so.” to suggestion that people can defend themself, pacifist when your side dominates. How predictable.

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      2 years ago

      Always interested to see what you try to make out of my words. You could have been a gifted sculptor for all I know, you neither lack imagination nor the aspiration to transform stuff into something completely different.

      I didn’t say basically anything you imply and have not enough time nor energy to waste in “discussions” with fundamentalists, so I’ll just conclude my annotations to your pseudointellectual ramblings with another “if you say so”.

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        2 years ago

        You are full of melodrama and thought stopping rituals. The war has been going on for 8 years. Russia will end it.

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        2 years ago

        Oh look, Varjolintu 2. Or maybe even 1, you seem to always arrive when he’s banned and have literally the same methods of trolling 101.

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          2 years ago

          This fruit is just too sweet not to reap it: It’s really cute how it doesn’t fit into your head how more than one person in the world doesn’t share your view about the same.

          So much imagination in one place, so little in the other!