• JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
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        16 hours ago

        But you always have the option to learn another language. It just takes some effort. It is easier to do than it ever has been before in history.

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          Finding an employer to sponsor you in most countries is exceedingly difficult for most Americans. We can’t just move, unfortunately. There are strict immigration laws in most countries.

          There were entire subreddits dedicated to this topic in the before-days. We need a Lemmy community for this complex topic.

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            12 hours ago

            Unless they’ve changed policy in the last six months, Portugal will take nearly anyone with stable remote work and fast track them to EU citizenship. This was/is the most viable choice for US citizens.

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              12 hours ago

              You are thinking of their nomad visa (D8) which takes 5 years and requires a monthly income of at least $3200 Eur/mo. The problem has always been getting a U.S. employer to allow you to work remote AND out of country.

              HR and payroll departments absolutely hate letting remote workers live outside the country because it makes tax liabilities and benefits complicated for them. So, it’s quite rare to find a U.S. company that will do it. Even most multi-national megacorps are assholes about it.

              But, if you are a successful freelancer with a very reliable income from non-Portuguese sources, then this may be an option. Most of us don’t fit that bill, unfortunately. Hell, most Americans struggle just to get a hybrid work situation. The idea of international remote or stable freelancing is quite a tall order.

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                When I pursued it there was a provision for the administrative tax burden of the employer. My employer withheld as usual for a US worker, then I would also need to file and post-pay Portugal’s taxes.

                Double taxation; an employer comfortable with it; new culture; national economic issues: I agree it’s a tall order for the vast majority of Americans. And, it also seemed the most viable option. I think we agree that emmigration is quite difficult.

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                  Double taxation; an employer comfortable with it; new culture; national economic issues: I agree it’s a tall order for the vast majority of Americans. And, it also seemed the most viable option.

                  Every H1B worker has this. This is normal; and was for me personally for years.

                  Having obtained a green card and come home, some of my family still owe American taxes every year for that 1% more they pay, without them or us getting anything for that higher tax, and despite not setting foot on American soil since before Trump. Maybe never again, given the human rights issues, but that’s another thing. We pay a pro who knows both countries, and that’s a few bucks each year on top.

                  You’re worried about treading a Very familiar path.

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                    4 hours ago

                    Many are readily importing my skillset. But, then I’d have to go back to corporate slavery.

                    I’m worried about the inaccessibility of the freedom to choose for the vast majority of Americans.

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        Come to New Zealand.

        We still have Nazis but they spend all their energy on hating the Māori population.

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          Didn’t the country’s government get a little dark for a term? How’s that working?

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          22 hours ago

          Thats ok, us Maori spend our whole time hating normal kiwis, who then hate nazis. They just need to slot in and direct theirs in the right direction (/s).

          I mean, what are they really going to do - deport us back home? Actually don’t answer that, they may try it.

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            I realised after posting that my post could easily be read contrary to what I meant too; it could easily read like I’m minimising the problems Māori face (TL;DR: colonisation).

            I was trying to imply that an immigrant could be spared attention from our Nazis because the Nazis are already busy being Nazis to Māori.

            It’s not like our government has spent the last 150 years being Nazis… Ah shit.

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              All good - I actually wish some of us would stop using the last 150 years as an excuse. Did we have to deal with alot of shit - absolutely, and a not 0 ammout is still ongoing. But FFS, the opportunities are there if you stop using it as an excuse to not do better.

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                My ancestors spent generations screwing over Māori, maybe not personally (I don’t know) but I’m not prepared to give them a pass on it.

                I’m quite happy to let some laziness slide or some rules being taken advantage of or me personally having some tax dollars pent when it’s making up for generations of actual evil.

                I’ve been studying our history and it’s pretty fucked… It’s not what we got taught in school.

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                  Oh, im aware. Lots of stuff we thought was limited to American colonization, education that has since been whitewashed to make it sound not as bad as it was, and general comments that miss most of the story. Even at the high school level.

                  You are not responsible for the actions of your ancestors, regardless of how direct or indirect it was. The flip side is that I did not suffer that treatment, and therefore can no blame my life and actions on it. Very different viewpoint to a number of my iwi, who are still stuck in the take take take and I’m owed mindset. Screwing over the next generation with their excuses.