Yet her goal is to influence voters which she didn’t do. So really she didn’t win anything. It’s weird how the left thinks acting foolish wins a debate.
Debates are to change the views of voters to win the election. As of now, Trump is expected to beat Harris in the election.
“Acting foolish” in what way exactly? She actually expressed ideas for policy and acted professional while Trump just whined, attacked with lies and moaned in a slovenly way, with a few notable outbursts about bullshit.
As of now, Trump is expected to beat Harris in the election.
Expected by whom? That does not seem to be the consensus in any media I consume or with people I’ve talked to.
That’s a wild analysis about her lying constantly. It’s so bizarre that someone would hear trumps endless spew of nonsense and then say that about Harris.
Sorry to have to mention reality, but that is not what Silver is saying currently:
Just noticed you cited 538 when I was citing Nate Silver. 538 has nothing to do with Nate Silver. He left some time ago and has called out the bad changes to their model.
Last week, for instance, his forecast gave Trump a 64% chance of winning the Electoral College while giving Vice President Kamala Harris just a 35% chance of victory, even while the same forecast saw Harris as more likely to win the popular vote and his polling averages had her leading in enough swing states to take the election.
You article is from today, so I will have to read that.
We can discuss Harris, sure. However, the topic was a debate - so yes, the idea is comparing the two. Trump was slovenly, unhinged and incoherent, but you somehow didn’t notice and claim that Harris did a bad job? Your interpretation is so distorted that I’m not sure it’s worth addressing.
okay, so Silver is working for Peter Theil now. Good to know.
It is weird how you think it was comparing the two when talking about Harris. It is the TDS the left has. It is weird as hell.
Who cares who Nate works for? He explains his work, it’s detailed and has been very accurate. He has also said he is going to vote for Harris, as everyone should.
We were comparing their debate performances as far as I can read it, so pretty sure that’s not “TDS” (which is an absurd term, and fuck Charles Krauthammer for introducing that to the lexicon - about Bush, of course). It’s worth noting that you made those claims about Harris’ performance while either accepting Trump’s or just overlooking his frankly insane behavior.
I don’t really trust anyone once Theil is involved. Maybe that’s just my Theil Derangement Syndrome, since of course criticizing conservatives always means mental illness.
Yeah I get the weird paranoia about theil. That’s completely normal and sane. Instead of looking at the facts and the experience of the person doing the work, I’d point to the baba yaga instead
Hmmm did I say she won anything? Once again proving your inability to read.
Trump made a fool of himself then went on to say how everyone agrees he won. He rambled about disproven claims and didn’t bring up any real policy. It’s weird how the right thinks acting foolish wins a debate. Anyone that was positively influenced by his debate performance is a fucking moron because that was even more embarrassing than Biden’s debate
Just imagine beholding Trump, everything from his very foolish appearance, to the horrible things he says, his complete lack of understanding about almost every issues (dumbfuck is still acting like other countries pay tariffs, to say nothing of retaliation and trade wars), his deranged ramblings, moody insults, defensiveness, and not being repulsed. Makes no sense to me. On the other hand I’ve seen people “I don’t like trump, but I’m voting for him because I think he’d be better on 2A”. Sure, brilliant.
Or perhaps more likely to seek help and take psychologists and counselors seriously. There’s been a big shift in willingness to accept that one might have a mental illness within the past couple of generations.
Yet her goal is to influence voters which she didn’t do. So really she didn’t win anything. It’s weird how the left thinks acting foolish wins a debate.
Debates are to change the views of voters to win the election. As of now, Trump is expected to beat Harris in the election.
So what did she “win”?
“Acting foolish” in what way exactly? She actually expressed ideas for policy and acted professional while Trump just whined, attacked with lies and moaned in a slovenly way, with a few notable outbursts about bullshit.
Expected by whom? That does not seem to be the consensus in any media I consume or with people I’ve talked to.
she constantly lied and never really answered a question.
The experts. Nate Silver predicts that Trump’s odds are at 65%.
That’s a wild analysis about her lying constantly. It’s so bizarre that someone would hear trumps endless spew of nonsense and then say that about Harris.
Sorry to have to mention reality, but that is not what Silver is saying currently:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/
Just noticed you cited 538 when I was citing Nate Silver. 538 has nothing to do with Nate Silver. He left some time ago and has called out the bad changes to their model.
It’s weird that I mentioned Kamala and that you kick in talking about Trump. Are you unable to talk about Kamala?
https://news.yahoo.com/news/nate-silver-slammed-over-trump-174617514.html
No, that is what he has been saying.
Last week, for instance, his forecast gave Trump a 64% chance of winning the Electoral College while giving Vice President Kamala Harris just a 35% chance of victory, even while the same forecast saw Harris as more likely to win the popular vote and his polling averages had her leading in enough swing states to take the election.
You article is from today, so I will have to read that.
We can discuss Harris, sure. However, the topic was a debate - so yes, the idea is comparing the two. Trump was slovenly, unhinged and incoherent, but you somehow didn’t notice and claim that Harris did a bad job? Your interpretation is so distorted that I’m not sure it’s worth addressing.
okay, so Silver is working for Peter Theil now. Good to know.
It is weird how you think it was comparing the two when talking about Harris. It is the TDS the left has. It is weird as hell.
Who cares who Nate works for? He explains his work, it’s detailed and has been very accurate. He has also said he is going to vote for Harris, as everyone should.
Yeah bro, TDS, the left!
We were comparing their debate performances as far as I can read it, so pretty sure that’s not “TDS” (which is an absurd term, and fuck Charles Krauthammer for introducing that to the lexicon - about Bush, of course). It’s worth noting that you made those claims about Harris’ performance while either accepting Trump’s or just overlooking his frankly insane behavior.
I don’t really trust anyone once Theil is involved. Maybe that’s just my Theil Derangement Syndrome, since of course criticizing conservatives always means mental illness.
There are other experts who have analyses too, of course. You might check out this one:
https://fortune.com/2024/09/18/trump-vs-harris-election-odds-who-will-win/
Paywalled.
Betting odds are on Trump.
Yeah I get the weird paranoia about theil. That’s completely normal and sane. Instead of looking at the facts and the experience of the person doing the work, I’d point to the baba yaga instead
Hmmm did I say she won anything? Once again proving your inability to read.
Trump made a fool of himself then went on to say how everyone agrees he won. He rambled about disproven claims and didn’t bring up any real policy. It’s weird how the right thinks acting foolish wins a debate. Anyone that was positively influenced by his debate performance is a fucking moron because that was even more embarrassing than Biden’s debate
Just imagine beholding Trump, everything from his very foolish appearance, to the horrible things he says, his complete lack of understanding about almost every issues (dumbfuck is still acting like other countries pay tariffs, to say nothing of retaliation and trade wars), his deranged ramblings, moody insults, defensiveness, and not being repulsed. Makes no sense to me. On the other hand I’ve seen people “I don’t like trump, but I’m voting for him because I think he’d be better on 2A”. Sure, brilliant.
You said he was rocked by Harris which is false. She didn’t rock anything. You said in your comment he was losing it. He lost nothing.
No, it was not as bad as Biden’s debate. That is just a weird thing to say.
She fact checked the shit out of him and straight up laughed at the ridiculous stuff he was saying. She pushed his buttons.
He’s absolutely losing IT - as in his mind. He’s been falling apart since getting shot and you could see him break further during the debate.
Sounds like we watched two different debates entirely. I found it very boring with both of them fibbing up a storm.
If Kamala did such a great job, why is she still expected to lose to Trump?
Pretty sure we experience entirely different versions of reality, not just debates.
Well Liberals are much more likely to be mentally ill, so I suspect that is true.
Or perhaps more likely to seek help and take psychologists and counselors seriously. There’s been a big shift in willingness to accept that one might have a mental illness within the past couple of generations.
No, just more likely to be mentally ill.
Why are you asking me to defend a stance on not taking again?
Do you not even read what you type?
She fact checked? No she didn’t. She lied.