Dallas Humber, 34, and Matthew Allison, 37, face 15 counts including soliciting hate crimes and support for terrorism
A white supremacist group that branded itself the Terrorgram Collective drew up a list of high-profile assassination targets including at least one senator and a district court judge, according to a federal indictment unsealed on Monday.
Prosecutors allege that the two leading agitators of the group incited followers on social media to commit hate crimes against Black and Jewish people, immigrants and members of the LGBTQ+ community.
Dallas Humber, 34, of Elk Grove, California; and Matthew Allison, 37, of Boise, Idaho; face 15 counts each of soliciting hate crimes and providing material support to terrorism. US justice department lawyers filed the 37-page indictment in district court in the eastern district of California on Thursday.
It alleges the pair encouraged attacks on government infrastructure, energy facilities and other buildings “to ignite a race war and help accelerate the collapse of government and society”.
I’ll never understand why these assholes think that taking down a power grid will incite a race war.
What the fuck do black people or Hispanic people or immigrants have to do with whether or not the electricity is on? Surely there is no one out there who thinks the electricity keeps running because black people exist…right? I mean, they can’t logically blame it going out on black people (or whoever else), what with them being here right now and infrastructure being fine (well, not fine, but functioning).
I know there’s no logic to it. But usually I can at least see what the extremist propagandists are aiming to exploit. And I just really cannot connect energy infrastructure to race. It boggles the mind.
Because the Turner Diaries is the only “literature” they have ever consumed (and even then, most of them probably just read the wiki).
They are not very creative or intelligent.
I think they’re thinking that people like them are in the majority and they’re trying to incite the most desperate or violent racists to start attacking minorities under the cloak of darkness. I’ve worked and spoken with crazy right wing assholes my whole life. They’re the type of people who would easily murder or rape if they think no one is watching and they can get away with it.
The funny thing is religion used to reign a lot of them in. The true believers actually felt like God watched their every move, but most church goers don’t even really act like they believe the shit they spew anymore.
I’m not sure that religion reigns anyone in. It isn’t structured that way from my understanding, leaving too much to interpretation by the leaders. In my experience, exceptionally racist and activist folks are also religious, and use their chosen religion to support and motivate their actions and beliefs. You’re right in that people who are good followers of whatever will be more pacifist (you didn’t say that exactly but I think that is what you were at), but there aren’t that many folks who get deep into scripture. In many religions.
I’m just speaking from experience growing up in churches. The people who would go to church and only behave because they think God is watching are the people trying to get their reward from it. I’ve known some really decent people, but they were very rare. The majority were there for themselves.
The thing is I’ve seen many of those same people keep the rhetoric, but leave the churches for the most part.
That’s pretty fair. My experience (while young) was similar. I am mainly speaking to the racist side of things, that seems to apply to religions including, and outside of, Christianity. At some level, it’s like politics. Some folks will vote Democrat because that’s what they do, some will because they see that as their best option, and some will be activists within that system to foment change. But politics in USA is not religion if you are left leaning so it is harder with fewer real options. Probably no racists vote for Democrats.
Thinking things through isn’t something most racists are skilled at.
If you take out the power, people will get desperate in a matter of days if not hours.
Tensions will rise and they’ll strike out randomly looking for scape goats, which, typically, are minorities.
I think if the big power outage in New York in 1977 didn’t cause a race war, nothing will. It was also in the middle of a heat wave.
There was looting, but there was no race war.
Nah
No they won’t. Parts of Texas without power for over a week even after floods cleared, and no one rioted.