An Israeli woman kidnapped by Hamas militants on October 7 and held hostage for 245 days before being rescued lashed out on Friday at Israeli media outlets that twisted her words to make it seem as if she was wounded by her captors when in reality she was injured in an attack by the military in which she once served.

Responding to reports in outlets including The Jerusalem Post—which on Thursday ran the headline “Hamas Beat Me All Over”—Noa Argamani said on Instagram that “I can’t ignore what happened in the media in the last 24 hours.”

“Things were taken out of context,” the 26-year-old navy veteran from Be’er Sheva said of her earlier comments to Group of Seven diplomats in Tokyo. “I was not beaten… I was in a building that was bombed by the Air Force.”

“I emphasize that I was not beaten, but injured all over my body by the collapse of a building on me,” Argamani added. “As a victim of October 7, I refuse to be victimized once again by the media.”

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    I’ll save someone a long read, this person is claiming higher birth rate as a counter point to genocide claims. All that digging for talking points must be dry, dirty work.

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      Yes, that’s the only thing I mentioned. You chose to ignore all the other points, like higher than average life expectancy for the Middle East.

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        All of your arguments are just as incongruous as the birthrate one, which is the case for most Zionist points. Saying that Palestinians are somehow responsible in this due to their inability to be accepted as refugees in other nations gives no merit at all to disproving genocide.

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          I did not blame Palestinians in my comment, but rather other Arab nations. Some Palestinian leaders most certainly are worthy of being blamed in part though, going as far back as Amin al-Husseini. Still, in the grand scheme of things, most Palestinians are just unlucky. They’ve never really been able to forge their own destiny, being used like pawns by both foreign and domestic powers who do little more than exploit their suffering for their own benefit.

          If you can show any genocide to me that over the course of decades resulted in a higher birth rate than the nation that allegedly committed it, higher life expectancy and more obesity than the average in the region, then please, do so. I’ve studied enough genocides to know that this conflict clearly isn’t one, to the point that I’m convinced that those who initially made the claim did so maliciously in order to hurt Jews, trivialize the traumatic experience of the Holocaust and mask their own genocidal ambitions against Jews. I’m not accusing you of this - you are likely just repeating what you heard elsewhere without actually thinking about it. Benefit of the doubt.

          Even the way Zionism is used by people like you as if it was some evil, as if Jews are the only people in the world whose desire for a home country is somehow not justified and worthy of being used like a swear word, an accusation against people who don’t agree in the disinformation- and hate-infested smear campaign that is being led against Israel. We can argue all day long that there need to be significant reforms in Israel itself, that the far-right government is as much of a stain on the country as similar governments are on other countries, that the settlers are an affront against humanity, etc. pp. - but going so far as to deny a people that is still hunted and persecuted around the world the one place in the world where they aren’t an endangered minority is nothing but despicable.

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            Palestinians are closer related to Isreali’s than other nations, still an incongruity.

            The responsibility lands on Isreal.

            And to further clarify, these are two cultures of the same blood that have always shared the same land. You can’t use the examples of the persecution of the Jews worldwide to defend this.

            Also people like me use the word as defined, Zion means holy land. They want a holy land for their religion. That right there means to me, as a Gentile, religious persecution leading to genocide. Did I muddy the word up at all?

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              First a thesaurus, now a dictionary. Will you attempt to score with a collection of formulas next?

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                This will be my last comment to you troll. I really can’t go any further in this (you refusing to acknowledge wartime rape, and even why you think pregnant women are the intended (or collateral )target of conflict, without getting a little sick. Your logic has me questioning if you belong in a civilized society at all.

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                  Thank you. I was seriously growing tired of watching you working yourself off on the strawman you fabricated in your mind. How on Earth you came up with the absurd accusation in this comment in particular is beyond me.

                  It’ll be interesting to see if you actually stay true to your words.