• OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      “burn it all to the ground”…which, frankly, is a shit idea, because we are all in this boat and I’d rather see us all succeed than fail.

      Do you think changing economic systems is equivalent to setting it all on fire?

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        3 months ago

        No, but the majority of the “you’re not left enough” crowd disingenuously keeps bringing it up as the only solution, and don’t offer any positive or applicable alternatives.

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          3 months ago

          Thats because it is the only solution, and the “you’re not left enough crowd” understands it is the only solution.

          Maybe read Capital volumes 1-3 and then tell me you think “socialism or barbarism” isn’t an objectively(or as close to objective as one can be) correct take.

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            3 months ago

            My friends, I am not saying the system is the best one, I am saying we need to come together and figure out how to make positive changes whole living in it, not wreck the joint Because our children have enough shit to deal with for thier future.

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      Well, the first thing to be done in USA is to stop dis BS two party system. It is still better than only one, sure, but a working democracy should give more options and tools to make each individual’s opinion respected.

      After that something like an initiative is needed so that a the people can commit changes to the constitution by winning a majority vote in the majority of states and one that counts for all states (changes to constitution have to win both majority votes)

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          3 months ago

          I’m not American, but have similar struggles. Is this the kind of thing we can push locally then hope to expand out, or does it really have to come from the top down?

          Actually you all probably have more local power than a lot of countries, so lots of opportunity to land and expand

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            3 months ago

            I personally prefer to start locally and expand upwards. Especially here in switzerland where we value the right to have local laws very highly 😇

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      3 months ago

      Bananas are strong together. Anarchist are working toward prefiguration. That is building a future with “no rule” inside current systems. We have to live within the current system, but we can build a better one. Working together maybe we can build a better boat.