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      philosophically he really really is, in the same way andrew tate (except for thinking he’s hot, which incels don’t do) is.

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          he’s an incel who got laid. philosophically, psychologically, socially, he still is. he just got his dick wet a few times. as much as they whine about it;the difference isn’t big enough to waste valuable bandwidth defining.

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            There is a big difference in a virgin and someone who fathered children.

            And no I’m not defending him. He’s a total piece of shit. Just not involuntarily celibate even if he shares some views with those who are.

            I mean just as one example of how they’re different: level of sexual frustration.

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              just because he’s fucked, doesn’t mean he’s gotten any better. doesn’t mean he doesn’t hate women any less. probably resents having to fuck one for his public image.

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                And I never implied any of that. Just that it’s silly to call someone a thing with a literal meaning as though words don’t matter. And yes he’s not any better off, just different.

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                  brevity, especially in explicitly political messages, matters. nuance WILL be lost, communication has two sides, and sometimes you cannot convey perfect truth, you need to lose a little fidelity. so “JD vance is an incel” is true enough for literal government work.

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                    “JD Vance is a misogynist”

                    Brief and accurate. Less confusing. Didn’t need to make up anything untrue or stretch any definitions to something they aren’t.