I hope this is not considered a low-effort post, but I wanted to ask if using stock Android without signing in to your Google account/ using Play Store is worth it. It should be more private, right? I’m planning on buying the cheapest Samsung phone there is (probably the A14). I currently have a stock Android Oneplus phone. I bought it before I had my “privacy epiphany”. I knew that you shouldn’t use Huawei phones as those “definitely” were spying on you; I read that Oneplus phones are safe because they use Western hardware, but they can still gather your data via the software, right? But I digress.

The reason I’m planning on buying a cheap (Samsung) phone is because I realized I don’t need a fancy phone (for me “fancy” is a 400 local currency mid-ranger). I considered getting a dumb phone as they are definitely private, but the utter lack of features is depressing. The main reason is I can’t give up the camera. So I’m willing to go with the cheapest smartphone, because it’s still miles better than the best dumb phone.

As I understand it, most cheap phones are not supported by GrapheneOS and besides I’m worried I might brick the phone. I’m willing to use APKs (from official sources and I only need a few apps). To return to my question, is stock Android without a Google account/ Play Store better than using an account/ Play Store?

EDIT: Thanks all for the useful replies. I’m still not sure what I’ll end up doing or what my current financial situation will allow me to do, but I’m pretty sure I’ll be moving away from Google anyway. Thanks again!

    • flora_explora@beehaw.org
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      1 year ago

      I bought a refurbished Pixel 4 over a year ago and am super happy with it. CalyxOS is running smoothly and the camera is amazing (all my friends are jealous!) GrapheneOS would be overkill for me though, CalyxOS feels like a good compromise.

        • flora_explora@beehaw.org
          1·
          1 year ago

          Well, that was my impression when I was reading up on the differences between GrapheneOS and CalyxOS nearly two years ago. I had to decide and people suggested that GrapheneOS would be more secure and private while CalyxOS would be a still private but more comfortable (= less apps are broken etc) solution. Especially with microG and such. But this might not have been true in the first place and/or might have changed since then.

          • Genghis@monero.town
            3·
            1 year ago

            Yeah a lot of substantial improvements have been made to GrapheneOS in the last couple of years to expand app compatibility. There’s Sandboxed Google Play now, as well as things like the exploit protection compatibility mode toggle so that people can use apps with memory corruption bugs which are caught by hardened_malloc if they wish to. Back in the day, apps with memory corruption would crash and there would be no way to use the until they fixed their app. They now have a toggle to disable hardened_malloc per app when you want to use it regardless.

    • someguy3English
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      1 year ago

      Would putting LineageOS or GrapheneOS on a Samsung phone eliminate the Samsung stuff and give you privacy?