That’s all true, I just think it’s very annoying that they chose to graft themselves onto an existing political movement by taking their name when they share very little of the core ethics. It makes communication more difficult and implies an affinity that I don’t believe exists.
It is relatively new actually. I mean the ideas, maybe not since Jefferson had similar ideas hundreds of years ago but the cooption of the words anarchism and libertarianism, both of which were historically leftist movements, was popularized by Murray Rothbard in the 1970s. He was also pro-segregation, just to demonstrate what kind of people we’re discussing here.
Rothbard agreed privately that his movement was fundamentally not anarchism but for whatever reason in his public writings, he claimed otherwise. I suspect it was just to troll leftists but who knows.
Edit also the ideation is not tied in a person or specific movement, just saying the notions of situation and isolation, especially idealized with the collapse of the federal government go back before the 70s
Anarchism significantly predates even Marxism. Depending on who you ask it is at least 150 years old as an explicit political movement. And even before that the majority of the socialists were ideologically closer to what is today described as anarchism, heck even the young Marx largely just plagiarised ideas from earlier anarchist thinkers.
That’s all true, I just think it’s very annoying that they chose to graft themselves onto an existing political movement by taking their name when they share very little of the core ethics. It makes communication more difficult and implies an affinity that I don’t believe exists.
I mean , libertarian sourced small to zero government is NOT new
It is relatively new actually. I mean the ideas, maybe not since Jefferson had similar ideas hundreds of years ago but the cooption of the words anarchism and libertarianism, both of which were historically leftist movements, was popularized by Murray Rothbard in the 1970s. He was also pro-segregation, just to demonstrate what kind of people we’re discussing here.
Rothbard agreed privately that his movement was fundamentally not anarchism but for whatever reason in his public writings, he claimed otherwise. I suspect it was just to troll leftists but who knows.
Dude that’s 50 years ago.
Edit also the ideation is not tied in a person or specific movement, just saying the notions of situation and isolation, especially idealized with the collapse of the federal government go back before the 70s
Anarchism significantly predates even Marxism. Depending on who you ask it is at least 150 years old as an explicit political movement. And even before that the majority of the socialists were ideologically closer to what is today described as anarchism, heck even the young Marx largely just plagiarised ideas from earlier anarchist thinkers.