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    "Come to think of it, denigrating the worth of a soldier’s service based on whether he deployed to a war zone is… kind of like denigrating the worth of a woman’s citizenship based on whether she happens to have children.”

    — Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, on X, defending Gov. Tim Walz against accusations by Sen. J.D. Vance.

    Damn Pete, you did it again…

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      I was thinking it is almost its own form of stolen valor, but I’m not a vet, so my opinions remain just that.

      Edit: “it” being to denigrate Waltz’s honorable and valued service, in case that wasn’t clear

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        Not only that, but for JD Vance to act like his service was real service while Walz wasn’t is just insulting to over 90% of the military that didn’t deploy to a combat zone. Neither of them chose where to deploy. The military chooses for you. Also, Vance was in motherfucking public affairs. Dude had a cushy ass job, probably spending his time checking grammar errors in press releases. He’s acting like he was Ricky Recon fighting in Fallujah. Additionally, Vance did 4 years, while Walz did 24 years. Walz also deployed to disaster response and got a fancy award called Nebraska Citizen-Soldier of the Year. Vance is being pathetic with his miltary superiority bs.

        Edit: I was mistaken. It seems like he escorted journalists around and helped Iraqis, so he performed important and dangerous tasks.

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          Dude had a cushy ass job, probably spending his time checking grammar errors in press releases.

          I heard his role involved escorting journalists around Iraq, but yes, it seems he never experienced combat. [1]


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          probably spending his time checking grammar errors in press releases.

          He was educated under No Child Left Behind. Is he capable of that job?

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    The article comes to a proper conclusion with this paragraph.

    Twenty-four years of service is nothing to sneeze at, and Vance is running alongside a known draft dodger who has repeatedly disparaged veterans and Gold Star families. If Vance wants to critique a man’s honor, he should start with his running mate.

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      I just can’t help but wonder what Vance’s tactic was here. Pointing out a Democrat’s military service is only going to further shine a light onto Trump’s lack of it.

      Did Vance even serve?

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        Yes. He did 4 years and was stationed in Iraq where he did not see combat because as he was assigned to public affairs and spent his time in an air conditioned office writing press releases.

        Vance, who served in the Marines from 2003 to 2007 and deployed to Iraq, has said in his memoir that he never saw real combat and that he worked in the public affairs department while on deployment.

        /Edit to add link

        //2nd Edit to add that I don’t mean to disparage Vance’s service, only to point out the hypocrisy of him attacking another veteran for not seeing combat while he himself admits that he never saw combat.

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    Vance’s claim that Walz abandoned his unit to avoid deployment to Iraq – which has been echoed throughout the right – was directly countered by Army Lt. Col. Ryan Rossman, director of operations for the Minnesota National Guard, who spoke to HuffPost.

    The unit “received an alert order for mobilization to Iraq on July 14, 2005,” Rossman said, two months after Walz retired. According to CNN, Walz first filed his paperwork to run for Congress in January of that same year, and – as several veterans have noted – the administrative process of a military retirement typically takes several months before approval. His unit would not deploy to Iraq until March of 2006.

    JustseemingDesperate Vance is lying about as much as his idol

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      Dumbass doesn’t even know what stolen valor is. Walz never claimed to be an Iraq combat vet.

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      Even if he had suspicions, he’d been in service for 24 years, which is huge.

      If I worked for someone for 24 years and they looked like they wanted to go fight overseas, I’d absolutely consider retirement as well.

      Service to your country isn’t accomplished exclusively by going overseas to shoot people.

      Republicans are literally speed running a 100% completed anti-christ identity. Not even in the specific ‘end of days antichrist’, but like literally, specifically, the complete opposite of absolutely everything their Christian deity Jesus stood for.

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      J.D. Vance did not fuck a couch. Please stop saying that J.D. fucked a couch. J.D. never once fucked a couch and he never will fuck a couch. I will deny that J.D. Vance fucked a couch forever and ever, because J.D. Vance, candidate for Vice President of the United States of America DID NOT fuck a couch. But I would believe it if it were true.

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    I see where JD is coming from. He’s coming from his dick which is currently placed in an Uptown Black Leather 84’’ Sofa at Bob’s Discount Furniture on Monroe St in Toledo, OH.

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    And where was Trump at during the Vietnam war when he was supposed to be called up for duty…?

    Honestly, I think Trump should own that one and just come out and say, “I thought it was an unjust war and I didn’t want to participate in it,” but that undercuts the attack they’re trying to make against Walz, which is already a pretty weak argument as it is. Plus, it makes Trump look like a coward (amongst Republicans).

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      No one knows. He’s been oddly absent and silent except for a couple plaintive wails on truth social. For which I am grateful. The joyful warrior schtick is much more palatable fare for the 24hr news cycle.

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    It is all over x now. Every bot is now spewing this lie after every Harris/Waltz post.