unfortunately I already do most things (the ones I can influence, anyway) but no way I can do more, even us as people vs countries that dont give a shit (china, india, etc).
China and India both have lower emissions per capita than rich western countries like America, England, and Australia. These high emission countries should only be complaining about China if they were already world leaders on emissions, which they are not. The top ten countries on per capita emissions are African. Afghanistan is 11. India is the leader of the larger countries.
Imagine that you live in Texas. The US has a certain amount of emissions, and Texas has a certain smaller amount of emissions. If Texas seceded from the union, then you would live in a country with less emissions. Therefore, seceding is climate action.
No the net emissiona stay the same. Ergo, boundaries are useless. But we can only change so much trough goverment. Idc per capita, India and China might have a lot of people but their industry is killing us
They are by far the biggest contributors.
its not about living in a country or what country emits the most. The geographical region of india and china emit the most. China and india have the most control of that geographical region. Saying they are not responsible for the emissions is saying they dont have control and/or influence in these regions of industry and murder lf the earth
If you’re in the US, that’s not true. India emits less than US. India emits 3 billion tons of CO2 a year. USA emits 5 billion.
Now that we’ve sorted out the facts, let’s talk philosophy. You’re arguing that we should take actions that prevent climate collapse instead of worrying about borders and blame. I agree. So worry about the political processes that you have the power to participate in. You can’t vote in Chinese elections. You can’t vote in Indian elections. You can vote in your country’s elections, so worry about those.
The alternative is that America does nothing because China won’t do anything, and China does nothing because America won’t do anything. You’re just playing chicken. And what’s the prize for winning? Nothing. What happens if you’re both stubborn? Everyone and everything dies.
The shrimp don’t care whose fault it is that they all died. They just want to live. Every gram of CO2 we don’t emit could mean one more shrimp lives for one more day, and the total chance of climate collapse ticks down by one trillionth of a percent.
unfortunately I already do most things (the ones I can influence, anyway) but no way I can do more, even us as people vs countries that dont give a shit (china, india, etc).
China and India both have lower emissions per capita than rich western countries like America, England, and Australia. These high emission countries should only be complaining about China if they were already world leaders on emissions, which they are not. The top ten countries on per capita emissions are African. Afghanistan is 11. India is the leader of the larger countries.
Nature doesnt really give an F about per capita though
Imagine that you live in Texas. The US has a certain amount of emissions, and Texas has a certain smaller amount of emissions. If Texas seceded from the union, then you would live in a country with less emissions. Therefore, seceding is climate action.
Can you explain the flaw in this logic?
No the net emissiona stay the same. Ergo, boundaries are useless. But we can only change so much trough goverment. Idc per capita, India and China might have a lot of people but their industry is killing us They are by far the biggest contributors.
its not about living in a country or what country emits the most. The geographical region of india and china emit the most. China and india have the most control of that geographical region. Saying they are not responsible for the emissions is saying they dont have control and/or influence in these regions of industry and murder lf the earth
If you’re in the US, that’s not true. India emits less than US. India emits 3 billion tons of CO2 a year. USA emits 5 billion.
Now that we’ve sorted out the facts, let’s talk philosophy. You’re arguing that we should take actions that prevent climate collapse instead of worrying about borders and blame. I agree. So worry about the political processes that you have the power to participate in. You can’t vote in Chinese elections. You can’t vote in Indian elections. You can vote in your country’s elections, so worry about those.
The alternative is that America does nothing because China won’t do anything, and China does nothing because America won’t do anything. You’re just playing chicken. And what’s the prize for winning? Nothing. What happens if you’re both stubborn? Everyone and everything dies.
The shrimp don’t care whose fault it is that they all died. They just want to live. Every gram of CO2 we don’t emit could mean one more shrimp lives for one more day, and the total chance of climate collapse ticks down by one trillionth of a percent.