• Crampon@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Devils advocate for the heck of it. Gonna be submerged in bad rep for this.

    This is comparative to people wearing “I can’t breathe” signs after Floyd or waving a pride flag to show solidarity. You just give them shit because you do t agree with them.

    Sure they are all fucking stupid for not seeing the obvious flaws in their idol. But giving them shit for a pretty rational way of showing support to their idol is not the right use of your energy.

    You are participating in the fragmentation of your nation by pouring your hate into simple stuff like this.

    For all I care go ahead. I’m European.

    • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
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      Hear me out, showing solidarity to a slave owner attacked by his slave is different than showing solidarity to a slave who was just beaten. The power dynamic should not be ignored

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      But giving them shit for a pretty rational way of showing support to their idol is not the right use of your energy.

      Laughing at idiots is never not the right use of my energy, thank you very much.

      You are participating in the fragmentation of your nation by pouring your hate into simple stuff like this.

      I’ll feel guilty about it when it isn’t fascists I’m fragmenting out of my country. If anything, I’m proud to make those fucks uncomfortable in my country.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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      Who’s giving them shit for the way they are showing their support and not just for who they are supporting? 🤨

      If you support a tyrannical moron, even if the way you show it is rational, I’m still gonna give you shit for supporting a tyrannical moron.

    • duct_tape_is_silver@lemmy.world
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      The method of showing support might be similar to something like the George Floyd demonstrations. But I’m not giving them shit for their method, I’m doing it because of who they’re showing support for. If somebody wore a bandage on their ear in solidarity with an innocent person who was shot in that spot by cops, I’d applaud them.

      And as for fragmenting our nation, there is no tolerance available for fascists and their supporters. They choose to split us apart when they vote for someone like Trump who targets the vulnerable in our society.

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      One guy died as a result of police oppression. The other got his ear cut for being an asshole.

      • One is solidarity as a memorial.

      • One is solidarity with an idiot.

      SAME THING EVERYONE!

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      Thank you for being willing to stick your neck out there and say what you feel and see.

      On social media, especially sites where voting seems to happen in packs, it’s risky to have a counter opinion. Too many people just don’t say how they feel if it’s counter to the mainstream, and then their voices are completely drowned out.

      Perhaps your idea is more mainstream than you know but those who share it don’t have a willingness to jump into the fire, leaving those with more extreme positions thinking they have agreement with most when they don’t.

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      This is comparative to people wearing “I can’t breathe” signs after Floyd or waving a pride flag to show solidarity. You just give them shit because you do t agree with them.

      i mean yeah, except if floyd was just, moderately bruised, and wasn’t killed.

      Like it’s still bad, but he barely got hit, so it’s literally just a flesh wound.

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      No, your analogy would require people having fake knees choking them out, which is as ridiculous as the ear patches. But what do you expect from people who wear a 3d model of their god being killed everywhere they go.

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      Has a shit grasp of logical fallacies, much less elementary logic

      I’m European

      Hunh. Did not see that coming.

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        Nah. That’s not true at all.

        There are tons and tons of videos on social media of people literally praying to Trump.

        We don’t do shit like that.

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          There is a lot of truth to it. Just criticize or bring up one of the many objectively bad things Biden has done and then wait for the Blue MAGA individuals to come out of the woodwork telling you he’s “the most progressive president in modern history” and that he deserves our unwavering support just because he has a (D) next to his name.

          I’m sure a lot of this is rooted in fear around him losing the election, but these people have their heads buried in the sand and can’t see that the Democrats are handing the election to Trump just like they did in 2016 because they’d rather maintain the status quo and push right wing candidates like Clinton and Biden than help the American people by allowing a real progressive into the office.

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            There’s a huge difference between saying someone is doing good, and literally praying to them in their absence. Like, have you seen the videos of people filming themselves praying to Donald trump to free them of <whatever>? They exist.

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        The left used their brain and all come to the conclusion that Trump is a shitty person all on their own, they didn’t get their words from Fox News or their Republican cult leader