• MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
      167·
      4 months ago
      Short version:

      No.

      Long version:

      If I could unconditionally err on the side of caution, I would.

      Unfortunately that isn’t how the NSFW toggle is used, and erring on the side of caution any more than necessary comes with drawbacks in terms of post visibility and community growth. It also tilts the userbase of the community more towards users browsing and posting from instances like lemmynsfw.com.

      Posts like this one perform orders of magnitude better when not marked NSFW, which means they reach more people who want to see them when untagged, than didn’t want to see them.

      Tagging them, in fact partially achieves the opposite.

      This is because people scroll past content marked NSFW regardless of what it is, except when they are looking for porn.

      So while I haven’t stopped using the NSFW tag, I push the needle on it a bit by not marking everything even slightly suggestive as NSFW “just in case” because it hides the content from the people who want to see it, leaving just the porn enthusiasts to actually see the post, who then down-vote it because it isn’t actually porn.

      This post isn’t going to register as pornographic to anyone seeing a thumbnail, scrolling by, or looking at it over someone’s shoulder. Hence, to me it warrants being left untagged.

      • colderr@lemmy.worldEnglish
        82·
        4 months ago

        I personally would say that this should be NSFW, if I saw someone look at this picture in public, I would think they’re looking at porn. I understand why you don’t wanna mark it NSFW, but I feel like it should be.

        • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
          32·
          4 months ago

          I agree. Unfortunately NSFW doesn’t mean not safe for work. It means porn.

          If I could use a “mildly suggestive” tag, I would.

          Marking something that isn’t porn NSFW to avoid offending a small subset of users, hides that same content from an orders of magnitude larger number who would want to see the content.

          Nevermind that NSFW is a nebulous threshold that varies around the globe, and is hence a useless tool where controlling what you do and don’t see online is concerned.

          I’d love to filter out porn from my feed by just disabling nsfw content on an account level, but I can’t, because people like you would have a bunch of other stuff thrown out with it.

          • colderr@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            4 months ago

            Again I see your viewpoint, but I would still say that this is pretty much mild porn, which would mean that it is Not Safe For Work. Imagine you being at your job on break and your co-worker saw you looking at that image, they would definitely tell other people that you look at porn at work.

            But it is your post and I see your viewpoint so I don’t wanna argue about it anymore. It is a very nice and well done image tho!

            • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
              32·
              4 months ago

              No they wouldn’t.

              • I don’t typically browse lemmy in a way where someone could see over my shoulder. (using thumbnail modes where I have to very deliberately go fullscreen for any images, I do this because I can’t block actual porn as a bunch of the content I do want to see would go with it)
              • This isn’t unusual. I’ve used this very image, and even more arousing art, as my desktop and phone wallpapers. My city has public art installations featuring both male and female nudity.

              I WANT to be able to tag content accordingly. Because I myself would like better control over my feed. Luckily Lemmy divides things into communities and instances. By subbing and blocking accordingly we can all very precisely curate our feeds.

              NSFW tagging has an literal implied use case, for which it is effectively useless. It isn’t how it is actually used, and is hence a wildly inaccurate way to exclude anything. Sensibilities vary, as to me this is less than what public art shows, and to you its porn.

              • colderr@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                4 months ago

                Yes, I get your point, but I would not like to argue with you anymore. It is your post and your choice and if you think that this post like this is correct, then it is correct.

                I hope you have a good day/evening MentalEdge and maybe we’ll communicate again (hopefully not argue).