Multiple parties are jockeying for position in the aftermath of France's seismic snap election. The leftist New Popular Front (NPF) insists its ideas should be implemented.

Multiple parties are jockeying for position in the aftermath of France’s seismic snap election. The leftist New Popular Front (NPF) insists its ideas should be implemented.

France’s left wing New Popular Front (NPF) - now the largest group in parliament - has called for a prime minister who will implement its ideas including a new wealth tax and petrol price controls.

The leftist alliance secured the most seats in the recent French elections but fell short of the 289 needed for a majority in the National Assembly, France’s lower house of parliament.

President Emmanuel Macron’s Together bloc came in second and Marine Le Pen’s far-right National Rally (RN) party finished third.

France’s parties are now jockeying for position and it’s unclear exactly how things will shake out, but the NPF has insisted it will implement its radical set of ideas.

  • grrgyle@slrpnk.netEnglish
    20·
    5 months ago

    Some of them, sure, but I wonder how many would consider it worth the price. This is an income taxe I’m assuming, so it’s not like they’d lose out on actual wealth, investments, etc.

    It might be worth it if even just half stay and pay the taxe.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      323·
      5 months ago

      That was my point- they won’t leave. They like living there too much. That’s just always the excuse when such taxes are proposed for not doing them. “The rich will all just leave.”

      • not_woody_shaw@lemmy.worldEnglish
        101·
        5 months ago

        If it’s successful presumably other places will start to follow suit. Somebody’s gotta go first tho.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          191·
          5 months ago

          It wasn’t done nationally, but the U.S. state of Massachusetts did it recently and it was quite successful.

          Once again, the rich people with their Boston penthouses and Cape Cod beach homes didn’t want to leave.

          https://www.cbsnews.com/news/massachusetts-millionaires-tax-free-lunch-every-kid/

          They raised $1 billion off of the relatively small number of rich people living in that state when the U.S. as a whole is taken into account.

          There’s just no question to me that such taxes work. And the more places you implement them, the harder it will be to escape them.

      • Wxnzxn@lemmy.mlEnglish
        61·
        5 months ago

        While I agree, they most certainly will still try their damnedest to avoid it. From illegal stuff like tax fraud, to trying stuff like officially “moving” their workplace to a tax haven, while still living in France. There would definitely be more class warfare to be had, even after this were to pass (which they of course will fight tooth and nail against)

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          82·
          5 months ago

          No doubt. The rich can afford to pay people to find every loophole and take advantage of everything they can take advantage of. But I’m still glad this is happening.

          • grrgyle@slrpnk.netEnglish
            2·
            5 months ago

            And it doesn’t have to work perfectly to be worth it. Even if through rich-person fuckery they manage to stuff their (overseas) mattresses with hidden income, I’d bet the net result would be more €€€ in the public coffres.

      • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        61·
        5 months ago

        I never understood this argument. As a middle class person, I would highly prefer if all rich people left.

        They are the ones hording the wealth.

        Wealth is generated by applying labour to natural resources, that process doesn’t really include rich people, they just gate the resources.

      • reksas@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        42·
        5 months ago

        Even if rich leave, so what? They dont have to pay taxes for shit and what little they do have to pay they will just avoid anyway.

      • grrgyle@slrpnk.netEnglish
        31·
        5 months ago

        Ah I misunderstood. I see we’re in total agreement.

        Still glad I made my comment, if only as a foil against general doomerism.

      • d00phy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        22·
        5 months ago

        I think I’ve had this conversation with you before. Anyone who uses the “they’ll just leave” argument as a reason not to do it simply isn’t arguing in good faith.

        This is a good start, for sure, but it should not be the end at all. The wealthier people get, the more effort they put into hiding/keeping that wealth.

        Income/wealth/property/capital gains taxation is a balancing act. You want everyone paying their share; and everyone simultaneously agrees with that notion, while wanting to pay the absolute least for themselves. I would also argue that people need to see the benefits of that taxation in the form of maintained infrastructure and properly funded services. If it all just goes into the pockets of, e.g., the US military industrial complex, people will be less inclined to pay taxes at all.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          22·
          5 months ago

          Entirely possible. I’ve certainly discussed this topic multiple times. And yes, agreed, we need to do a lot more to curb excessive wealth.