• RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com
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    Every time I see his corrupt face I hope it made the frontpage because he stepped down, slipped and broke his neck or whatever.

    Disappointed once more.

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    Maybe personal beliefs shouldn’t be imposed on policy that affects different people of different faiths. Wish that was written down somewhere. We could use it as a guideline for how the founding fathers wished the country would be run.

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      I don’t know man, maybe slave owning people who lived 248 years ago didn’t have the best ideas, or the be all end all say in how a government should work? Maybe I’m nuts?

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        But a guy who supposedly is the son of an imaginary guy born of miracle intercourseless birth who makes up arbitrary rules about how to treat others and life life does. We should let him decide about the binary ‘nature’ of gender. Got it.

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        That’s a really broad brush you’re painting with. It’s almost as if the founding father is were complex human beings with complex issues that they had to compromise a lot on in order to even start the country we live in. I mean they kicked that slavery can down the road, where it landed and started the Civil War.

        That really is the problem with a lot of the Constitution and similar founding documents. Some of them were widely popular universally (such as banning the quartering of troops) at the time but have little real bearing on our lives today if any. Others were so divisive that they had no choice but to either leave them out entirely (slavery) or compromise messily (iirc that’s why we have the electoral college, but I’m rusty on the details).

        But no I mean let’s just hold them up as if they were demigods who could make no errors and knew everything. Because that makes fucking sense.

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          So you agree with me? What’s your point? Pretending things are the same as 200 years ago is willfully ignorant. Pretending the constitution is a sacred document like the ten commandments is dumb.

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            Yeah, they agreed with you. Their point is that they agreed with you. Sometimes people just share their thoughts and aren’t trying to start a fight.

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              Sometimes is hard to read between the booze lol.

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    In 2019, Texan Zackey Rahimi assaulted his girlfriend and fired his gun at a witness. He was put under a domestic violence restraining order, which he violated by possessing a firearm—an infraction under a 1994 federal laws—which he fired at people on multiple occasions. In his defense, Rahimi argued that the restraining order’s gun ban violated his 2nd Amendment right to bear arms.

    The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed: there was no 18th century law analogous enough to the statute barring Rahimi from possessing a gun, and therefore under Bruen, that statute must be unconstitutional.

    Yo what the FUCK

    I can see why Texas is the venue that Republicans go to when they wanna get some crazy shit into precedent on a federal level

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      The 18th century analogy standard was widely misused. Probably because SCOTUS didn’t make it clear and it’s a strange standard anyway. But yeah, the fifth circuit is a wild one

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        I mean it’s basically a gateway to bad laws

        “If there’s any dispute between how it used to be and how it is now, we want to make it so how it used to be wins”

        “Wait isn’t there usually a reason they changed it?”

        “I said no questions”

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      Did you read the article? It’s mostly about how Rahimi relates to Bruen and why that makes it so problematic. Nowhere do they condemn the outcome

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        So it’s more bullshit take on the Bruen ruling that anti-2a groups are still salty from? This has nothing to do with the Rahimi ruling at all…

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            I read the article, it’s exactly as I described it, bitching from the anti-2a crowd about Bruen

            You all can down vote me all you want. That’s literally what the article is. The 2nd isn’t going anywhere, you’re a minority of people who want it repealed. And your group got even smaller now that people on the left are becoming gun owners more and more.

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              People don’t take issue with Bruen because they want to repeal the 2nd Amendment. They take issue with Bruen because it’s an insane precedent.

              Bruen argues that there hasn’t been meaningful discussion or growth of laws and rights for 200 years. It’s a really dumb test. The constitution and amendments are really short. Not because they were written by divine geniuses, but because it is the founding document, it was never meant to be the entire body of law. That’s why it sets up 3 bodies of government to continue to govern and not just a judiciary to impose the constitution like divine mandate.

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                People don’t take issue with Bruen because they want to repeal the 2nd Amendment. They take issue with Bruen because it’s an insane precedent.

                Lol no that’s bullshit. Plenty want it repealed, usually the loudest do. It’s also not an insane precedent, there has been zero gun control laws that have actively helped drive down crime. It’s all been feel good legislation that’s done nothing but try and kick the can down the road for meaningful progress.

                Bruen argues that there hasn’t been meaningful discussion or growth of laws and rights for 200 years. It’s a really dumb test. The constitution and amendments are really short. Not because they were written by divine geniuses, but because it is the founding document, it was never meant to be the entire body of law. That’s why it sets up 3 bodies of government to continue to govern and not just a judiciary to impose the constitution like divine mandate.

                They’re really short because convoluted laws don’t do shit but target those who can’t hire expensive lawyers and lobbiest to avoid them. They’re rules for the working class not for the ruling class.

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                  Laws are complicated because people are complicated.

                  “Everyone should have the tools to defend themselves from aggressors” is a good sentiment.

                  This guy having those tools means other people are more directly in danger of having to defend themselves. His personal rights don’t overshadow theirs, so his rights will be restricted based on his past actions. Claiming that’s impossible because 100 guys didn’t think of explicitly saying that in regards to this specific issue in the first few years of constructing an experimental government from scratch is insane.

                  There have been lots of gun control laws that have helped drive down crime. That’s why we support mental health care, do background checks, and make people separate unsupervised children and guns. It’s why “arms” doesn’t include suitcase nukes and howitzers.

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    Some folks are trying to spin this ruling as good news for Hunter Biden and I don’t see it.

    The court ruled it’s OK to deny gun rights to domestic abusers.

    People really think they’ll deny abusers but allow crack addicts? 🤔