• Victoria Antoinette @lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    this just isn’t analogous to how the system works, anyway. the financiers are operating with (calculated) risk, and willing to pay for meat from suppliers without a contract in place to sell it. to make this fit your analogy, the woodsman would need to just chop up trees and hope you come buy some wood.

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      11 days ago

      It’s not meant to be. I was explaining why two people can be responsible for the same thing without ruining free will.

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        11 days ago

        I was explaining why two people can be responsible for the same thing without ruining free will.

        but its so disanalogous to how our food systems work that it’s irrelevant.

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          10 days ago

          It’s not irrelevant because it has nothing to do with food systems. You said that if you were responsible for a dead animal then an abattoir worker has no free will. I was exclusively explaining the concept of shared responsibility, wherein two parties can be responsible for something while maintaining free will.

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            10 days ago

            but because of how disanalogous your explanation is to the facts on the ground, your explanation is moot. you might as well have explained the housing market. one has nothing to do with the other.

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              10 days ago

              What are you even on about? You tried to deny shared responsibility, I explained the concept. Shared responsibility applies to this discussion. It’s a metaphor, if I used the housing market to explain the concept it would have been just as valid and applicable.

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                10 days ago

                Shared responsibility applies to this discussion.

                it would if my interactions with the agriculture industry were anything like your analogy. they’re not, so it doesn’t.

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                  10 days ago

                  o yeah, I forgot, the animal ag industry would still inexplicably exist even if no one bought its products. I guess you can just continue consuming them guilt free since it was gonna happen anyway.