He doesn’t have to admit murder but it is right in front of your face. Someone very connected to Boeing murdered them.
Another thing is the kind of person and even entity/organization it takes to discipline a whistleblower for literally looking out for the public wellbeing such in this case. It takes a sociopath with no regard for human life. If they would discipline them at work what else would they do in private?
I agree with you but this is not as impossible as you want it to seem. You can give someone flu like symptoms with a live vaccine shot. MRSA is touch spread and a stroke is just a blocked blood vessel in the brain. Easily done with an injection of something in the carotid. The ridiculous part is the complexity and number of people who would need to keep a secret.
All of those things were/are just another Tuesday class for your average KGB spook, not impossible at all. In a 100+ Billion dollar defense contractor I imagine you could find more than one person willing to shut up and take the giant bag, hell you can buy a congressman to sell out a whole community for like 10k
No that’s the problem. Once someone is in a hospital there’s a paper trail a mile long. If you wanted to assassinate someone then the hospital is the last place you would do it. You’d need to pay off a hundred people and hope none of them ever decides to talk. Or you start killing them off but then how long does it take big data FBI to connect those dots?
If guy number 2 was somehow DOA at the hospital or already infected with something irreversible then you’d have a case. But flu to hospital MRSA case to Stroke just isn’t how anyone who cared about remaining free and anonymous would kill someone.
They find the person shopping or something, routine. Spritz some flu into their face. (Well, more discretely, but yeah.)
They go to the hospital, pay the guy a visit when, spritz some MRSA on his linens or something. Plenty of opportunity. Even better, spritz it on everyone’s linens so it looks like an outbreak.
Slip in, visit the guy and inject a stroke causing drug. Maybe even something as innocuous as just injecting an air bubble into his artery.
Maybe a small support team. But really, you think Boeing doesn’t already have a hitter on the payroll?
Well, I have not done the injecting bit, but I have just walked into more than one ICU… It’s not hard. Nurses and security both are over staffed and underpaid.
(I work in contract security- at one point part of my job was pen testing. Chilled with an interesting fellow named Edgar, while waiting to get caught. Didn’t have anyone to talk to, so, we just chatted. Mostly he chatted.)
harder at night but only because there’s fewer people.
Unless there’s a specific reason someone needs high security… the security is largely a joke.
Yes you can lol. Do you think ICU wards are some high security facility? At worst you would have to get someone admissioned to the same hospital, be a visitor and on the way out pass by the other room quickly.
There have been multiple nurses that have killed people over periods of years.
It’s nowhere near as impossible as you seem to think it is.
Charles Cullen, a nurse, murdered dozens—possibly hundreds—of patients during a 16-year career spanning several New Jersey and Pennsylvania medical centers until being arrested in 2003.
William Davis, who worked at Christus Mother Frances Hospital in Tyler, Texas, fatally injected four patients with air.
Nurse Heather Pressdee pleaded guilty to three counts of first-degree murder and 19 counts of criminal attempt to commit murder.
Reta Mays, a former nursing assistant, killed seven elderly veterans with fatal injections of insulin at a West Virginia hospital.
The list sadly goes on and on and on. There’s even an entire Wikipedia article about it. And those are just the crazies that did for their own enjoyment.
I’m really not. Serial killers exist isn’t evidence it’s easy to get away with killing in a hospital. In fact the very existence of the list proves they’re getting caught.
Countless evidence of people commiting multiple murders, sometimes for decades at a time, and that somehow means one person couldn’t possibly be killed in the same setting…
So you’re not naive, you’re just willfully stupid. Got it.
You’re right, all these whistleblowers are dying completely naturally and it’s not suspicious at all.
I’d still fly in a Boeing until I hear about them start to get recalled/grounded/etc more, but you must be pretty naive if you don’t see that these deaths are suspicious and don’t think that companies in the United States of America, the land of big business, out of all countries in the world, could have legislative and other protections.
Barnett was found dead to an apparent self inflicted gunshot wound after officers were sent to his hotel because he missed a deposition hearing… for a lawsuit against Boeing.
Dead, single gunshot wound, in a car. You think that’s not suspicious at all?
funny that everyone who knew him, didn’t think he was even remotely suicidal. Also as for the ‘why now’ because now it’s got publicity and traction.
As for the cops ruling out foul play… it’s pretty easy to fake a suicide by gunshot… but yes, I’d buy that the police were in on it in a heartbeat. have you met cops? there’s a strong chance the cops were the ones who took the job.
But Barnett’s lawyers said in a statement following his death that his deposition was nearing an end and he appeared to be in good spirits.
“We didn’t see any indication he would take his own life. No one can believe it,” his lawyers, Robert Turkewitz and Brian Knowles, said in a statement on March 12.
What are people going to say, “Yeah, I knew he was gonna do it, but I had other shit going on so I ignored it.” Meaningless quote you hear all too often after people commit suicide unfortunately. And I don’t mean to admonish anyone, but who comes out afterwards and says “Yeah, his life was shit and he was a miserable fuck it was only a matter of time.”
Seriously? No better than the giant megacorp that caused many, many deaths, and other horrible shit they’ve caused or enabled, for thinking they might have caused another death or two in retaliation for exposing their crimes? Fuck off with that shit
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He doesn’t have to admit murder but it is right in front of your face. Someone very connected to Boeing murdered them.
Another thing is the kind of person and even entity/organization it takes to discipline a whistleblower for literally looking out for the public wellbeing such in this case. It takes a sociopath with no regard for human life. If they would discipline them at work what else would they do in private?
Guy 1 who suddenly committed suicide? sure. Guy 2 would need about a hundred people to keep the secret and that’s just not happening.
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I agree with you but this is not as impossible as you want it to seem. You can give someone flu like symptoms with a live vaccine shot. MRSA is touch spread and a stroke is just a blocked blood vessel in the brain. Easily done with an injection of something in the carotid. The ridiculous part is the complexity and number of people who would need to keep a secret.
All of those things were/are just another Tuesday class for your average KGB spook, not impossible at all. In a 100+ Billion dollar defense contractor I imagine you could find more than one person willing to shut up and take the giant bag, hell you can buy a congressman to sell out a whole community for like 10k
No that’s the problem. Once someone is in a hospital there’s a paper trail a mile long. If you wanted to assassinate someone then the hospital is the last place you would do it. You’d need to pay off a hundred people and hope none of them ever decides to talk. Or you start killing them off but then how long does it take big data FBI to connect those dots?
If guy number 2 was somehow DOA at the hospital or already infected with something irreversible then you’d have a case. But flu to hospital MRSA case to Stroke just isn’t how anyone who cared about remaining free and anonymous would kill someone.
One person. That’s all it takes.
They find the person shopping or something, routine. Spritz some flu into their face. (Well, more discretely, but yeah.)
They go to the hospital, pay the guy a visit when, spritz some MRSA on his linens or something. Plenty of opportunity. Even better, spritz it on everyone’s linens so it looks like an outbreak.
Slip in, visit the guy and inject a stroke causing drug. Maybe even something as innocuous as just injecting an air bubble into his artery.
Maybe a small support team. But really, you think Boeing doesn’t already have a hitter on the payroll?
This isn’t Hollywood. You can’t just walk into an ICU ward and inject someone.
Well, I have not done the injecting bit, but I have just walked into more than one ICU… It’s not hard. Nurses and security both are over staffed and underpaid.
(I work in contract security- at one point part of my job was pen testing. Chilled with an interesting fellow named Edgar, while waiting to get caught. Didn’t have anyone to talk to, so, we just chatted. Mostly he chatted.)
harder at night but only because there’s fewer people.
Unless there’s a specific reason someone needs high security… the security is largely a joke.
Yes you can lol. Do you think ICU wards are some high security facility? At worst you would have to get someone admissioned to the same hospital, be a visitor and on the way out pass by the other room quickly.
Have you ever stepped foot outside of your parents house before?
There have been multiple nurses that have killed people over periods of years.
It’s nowhere near as impossible as you seem to think it is.
Charles Cullen, a nurse, murdered dozens—possibly hundreds—of patients during a 16-year career spanning several New Jersey and Pennsylvania medical centers until being arrested in 2003.
William Davis, who worked at Christus Mother Frances Hospital in Tyler, Texas, fatally injected four patients with air.
Nurse Heather Pressdee pleaded guilty to three counts of first-degree murder and 19 counts of criminal attempt to commit murder.
Reta Mays, a former nursing assistant, killed seven elderly veterans with fatal injections of insulin at a West Virginia hospital.
The list sadly goes on and on and on. There’s even an entire Wikipedia article about it. And those are just the crazies that did for their own enjoyment.
You’re blissfully very naïve about this.
I’m really not. Serial killers exist isn’t evidence it’s easy to get away with killing in a hospital. In fact the very existence of the list proves they’re getting caught.
Countless evidence of people commiting multiple murders, sometimes for decades at a time, and that somehow means one person couldn’t possibly be killed in the same setting…
So you’re not naive, you’re just willfully stupid. Got it.
Good luck with that.
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You’re right, all these whistleblowers are dying completely naturally and it’s not suspicious at all.
I’d still fly in a Boeing until I hear about them start to get recalled/grounded/etc more, but you must be pretty naive if you don’t see that these deaths are suspicious and don’t think that companies in the United States of America, the land of big business, out of all countries in the world, could have legislative and other protections.
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Barnett was found dead to an apparent self inflicted gunshot wound after officers were sent to his hotel because he missed a deposition hearing… for a lawsuit against Boeing.
Dead, single gunshot wound, in a car. You think that’s not suspicious at all?
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funny that everyone who knew him, didn’t think he was even remotely suicidal. Also as for the ‘why now’ because now it’s got publicity and traction.
As for the cops ruling out foul play… it’s pretty easy to fake a suicide by gunshot… but yes, I’d buy that the police were in on it in a heartbeat. have you met cops? there’s a strong chance the cops were the ones who took the job.
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From the article linked in my original comment:
What are people going to say, “Yeah, I knew he was gonna do it, but I had other shit going on so I ignored it.” Meaningless quote you hear all too often after people commit suicide unfortunately. And I don’t mean to admonish anyone, but who comes out afterwards and says “Yeah, his life was shit and he was a miserable fuck it was only a matter of time.”
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Good luck. I’m with you. It’s annoying how retarded most of Lemmy has decided to be about this story based off headlines.
Suuuuuuuure. Found the assassin! /s
Seriously? No better than the giant megacorp that caused many, many deaths, and other horrible shit they’ve caused or enabled, for thinking they might have caused another death or two in retaliation for exposing their crimes? Fuck off with that shit