I hate Zionism, and while I am not Jewish, I have a few friends of that faith and I will not see them slandered, mocked, or made to feel unwelcome in this world.
Same here. I am partly jewish. My great grandmother died in the Holocaust. And I am very anti zionist. And definitely not antisemitic. I have a ton of books on jewish life and history.
The problem is: what is antizionism? If to be antizionist is to oppose the government of Israel, then yes, antizionism isn’t antisemitism. If antizionism is a negation of the legitimacy of the Israeli state altogether, then it’s a form of antisemitism, because it’s denying Jew’s the right of self-determination.
Jews didn’t steal Palestine. That’s a negation of history: you use a shovel three times anywhere in Israel and you find Jewish remains and artifacts. Cities like Jerusalem had a Jewish majority for ages before 1948. To negate that is antisemitic.
But to find a state legitimate doesn’t mean that the actions of this state are. Germany and Turkey committed genocides, and nobody want the destruction of these countries. France and Britain colonized other countries and committed a lot of crimes there but nobody want the destruction of these countries. Russia or Japan committed a lot of war crimes nobody want the destruction of these countries.
Israel is a criminal state committing genocide and other war crimes and should be stopped by all legal means necessary. We should stop arming them. Ee should stop financing them. We should arrest Netanyahu. Maybe we even should send blue helmets. We should fight for a free, independent and peaceful state of Palestine. But without antisemitism, thus without denying the right of self-determination for the Jewish people.
Zionism =/= Judaism
I hate Zionism, and while I am not Jewish, I have a few friends of that faith and I will not see them slandered, mocked, or made to feel unwelcome in this world.
Same here. I am partly jewish. My great grandmother died in the Holocaust. And I am very anti zionist. And definitely not antisemitic. I have a ton of books on jewish life and history.
The problem is: what is antizionism? If to be antizionist is to oppose the government of Israel, then yes, antizionism isn’t antisemitism. If antizionism is a negation of the legitimacy of the Israeli state altogether, then it’s a form of antisemitism, because it’s denying Jew’s the right of self-determination.
I feel like when a country goes genocidal, it loses any legitimacy it once had.
I mean Germany is STILL apologizing for the Holocaust and still sweats anytime Poland’s in the news.
And I hope that, one day, Israel will react in the same way with Palestine. But Germany still exists, and Israel should too.
Fair enough
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Jews didn’t steal Palestine. That’s a negation of history: you use a shovel three times anywhere in Israel and you find Jewish remains and artifacts. Cities like Jerusalem had a Jewish majority for ages before 1948. To negate that is antisemitic.
But to find a state legitimate doesn’t mean that the actions of this state are. Germany and Turkey committed genocides, and nobody want the destruction of these countries. France and Britain colonized other countries and committed a lot of crimes there but nobody want the destruction of these countries. Russia or Japan committed a lot of war crimes nobody want the destruction of these countries.
Israel is a criminal state committing genocide and other war crimes and should be stopped by all legal means necessary. We should stop arming them. Ee should stop financing them. We should arrest Netanyahu. Maybe we even should send blue helmets. We should fight for a free, independent and peaceful state of Palestine. But without antisemitism, thus without denying the right of self-determination for the Jewish people.
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If for you “people” is a genetic thing, you’re also racist.
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