The newly announced "Public Content Policy" will now join Reddit's existing privacy policy and content policy to guide how Reddit's data is being accessed and used by commercial entities and other partners.
Well that’s part of the thing. Web scraping doesn’t get covered by policies. Like, they could ban your ip or any accounts you have, but web scraping itself will always be acceptable. It’s why projects like NewPipe and Invidious don’t care about YouTube cease and desist letters.
Doesn’t that only happen on the mobile version? Either way, it’s stupid and annoying. Google should start de-ranking sites that add barriers to content, but I know they never will.
I tried that on my desktop. So long as you are not actually logged in you cannot see the communities that are too small for a review or too adult after a review.
Ugh, what a fucking shitshow. I know it won’t happen quickly or easily, but I’m hoping to see more people on federated platforms in the next decade or two. It’s the only way for us to take the internet back from these greedy bastards.
Is it any different for an “API”? I don’t think there’s a very big difference between an HTTP endpoint that returns HTML and an HTTP endpoint that returns JSON.
Parsing absolutely comes with a lot more overhead. Especially since many websites integrate a lot of JS interactivity nowadays, you oftentimes don’t get the full contents you’re looking for straight out of the HTML you’re getting out of your HTTP request, depending on the site.
We use Akamai where I work for security, CDN, etc. Their services make it largely trivial to identify traffic from bots. They can classify requests in real time as coming from known bots like Googlebot to programming frameworks like python & java to bots that impersonate Googlebot, to virtually any other automated traffic from unknown bots.
If Reddit was smart they’d leverage something like that to allow Google, Bing, etc. to crawl their data and block all others, or poison others with bogus data. But we’re talking about Reddit here…
Too bad the website is still openly accessible and still capable of being scraped
Probably what they’re targeting. Such as sites like safereddit, etc.
Well that’s part of the thing. Web scraping doesn’t get covered by policies. Like, they could ban your ip or any accounts you have, but web scraping itself will always be acceptable. It’s why projects like NewPipe and Invidious don’t care about YouTube cease and desist letters.
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Yea, I’ve seen those pop-ups when trying to find something out. It sucks but isn’t a significant barrier to web scraping
Doesn’t that only happen on the mobile version? Either way, it’s stupid and annoying. Google should start de-ranking sites that add barriers to content, but I know they never will.
I tried that on my desktop. So long as you are not actually logged in you cannot see the communities that are too small for a review or too adult after a review.
Ugh, what a fucking shitshow. I know it won’t happen quickly or easily, but I’m hoping to see more people on federated platforms in the next decade or two. It’s the only way for us to take the internet back from these greedy bastards.
Is it any different for an “API”? I don’t think there’s a very big difference between an HTTP endpoint that returns HTML and an HTTP endpoint that returns JSON.
In what way?
HTML definitely provides more overhead than json if you only care about the data.
Legally. OC stated that NewPipe doesn’t worry about legal threats because they scrape instead of using an official API.
Parsing absolutely comes with a lot more overhead. Especially since many websites integrate a lot of JS interactivity nowadays, you oftentimes don’t get the full contents you’re looking for straight out of the HTML you’re getting out of your HTTP request, depending on the site.
I meant legally.
Still waiting for the news that they took down old.reddit. Without the third party apps, that was the only way it could still be usable.
We use Akamai where I work for security, CDN, etc. Their services make it largely trivial to identify traffic from bots. They can classify requests in real time as coming from known bots like Googlebot to programming frameworks like python & java to bots that impersonate Googlebot, to virtually any other automated traffic from unknown bots.
If Reddit was smart they’d leverage something like that to allow Google, Bing, etc. to crawl their data and block all others, or poison others with bogus data. But we’re talking about Reddit here…