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      I do not think enough people are aware of the limits to who can make the newly required accounts.

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      So for those who can’t have a PSN account the failure was on them for buying the game anyway, since it was included on the store page, terms, and shows up on launch. Now, I agree they should get a refund if it locks them out the game. For the rest of the caterwauling, what will they do when Steam denies their refund after playing 200hours? Boycott Steam?

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        File support tickets directly with Arrowhead

        https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us

        File a complaint with your local government body, I believe in Australia it is illegal to break a game after the fact. To substantially change how it runs to hold it hostage.

        But even in other jurisdictions, even 1, 000 disgruntled gamers filing small claims against arrowhead would consume an outsized amount of resources to respond to.

        Make noise, be disgruntled, don’t play the game, file a negative review, create busy work for the perpetrators. They’re stealing time and money from you, it’s fair to do it to them. But legally

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          I’ve been called worse by better people. People who don’t read things that they are agreeing to and then complain they don’t like it after the fact should take the lesson and move on.

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            If your replying to this thread on mobile, I would like to remind you that you never read the EULA to your phone either (this would have taken several hours for android and slightly less for iOS) . You just saw the blurp “accept terms and conditions” and moved on with your life like everyone else did. There is no expectation to read usage contracts for small, non-bussiness purchases.

            Also, your opposition to this discourse is futile… The ball is in Sony/Arrowheads court. We will see if they compromise with players in eastern europe, or double down to become the next Battlefront 2 (pride and accomplishment yall!). As for me, ill let the paint dry and move on if I feel they resolved this poorly. Lets see if EDF6 can stick the landing.

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              It wasn’t hidden in some legalese riddled document. It was listed on the store page on the right side where they put all the requirements for outside accounts. I get there are people who don’t want to have to install other launchers and make other accounts, but it was there. To complain that they are now enforcing it when it was obviously disclosed and claim it was a bait and switch are wrong.

              Should they have sold it to countries Sony doesn’t serve? Obviously not.

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                Why is this so hard to grasp? If I saw that and knew I couldn’t have made an account, I wouldn’t have bought the game…

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                  So to be clear: this is not an argument for the requirement to be logged in to PSN. At no point are you arguing any value or purpose to it.

                  As such, it’s also not an argument against the negative reviews. Even if “people should have known before purchasing it” if the negative reviews are because of the PSN requirement, that is still valid.

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            In general, even as a company, in most of the civilized world, you don’t get to just write stuff in some ToS and fuck around. Consumer protection agencies do care about this.

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            Hold on let me just slip a note that says “you agree to give up your rights” in to the computers my clients buy, that means I’m covered right?

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            Here is the lesson i take out of it - if buying isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing.

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        terms,

        It’s not in either terms linked on the steam store page. There’s no mention of a requirement to use PSN’s networks or to link your steam and PSN account in either EULA. It’s ONLY the banner on the steam page. And nothing in game makes it clear that skipping the login is only a temporary thing.

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        Guuuuuuys… stop being mean to corporations! Didn’t you watch the HR video that says we are family? /$

        (If only they knew how shitty, exploitative and gaslighting my family is and how correct they are)