US president says ‘immigrants are what makes us strong’ and criticizes countries, plus China and Russia, over migration policy

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  • WamGams
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    5 months ago

    I’m not disagreeing with you, I just think the term ethnostate is a misapplication.

    A vaguely democratic theocracy is a better descriptor in my mind.

    • Philharmonic3@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      I don’t agree. I think ethnostate is the correct term for what they are trying to establish. They see Palestinians as incompatible with their state.

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        5 months ago

        But again, Jews are all ethnicities and Arabs (of which Palestinians are) are the largest minority within Israel.

        I understand that complicates the world view a little bit, bit I’m sorry, your world view needs to account for a little more complication.

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          5 months ago

          It’s not my world view. It’s Israel’s current goal. I understand that Jews are all ethnicities. However, Israel wants to be a country only for ethnic Israelis.

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            5 months ago

            Only for ethnic Israelis?

            Part of the argument you guys are making is that the reason for the genocide is that they need the land so that they can bring even more Jews in to live.

            I’m sorry, but I think you just haven’t thought this through in full.

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              5 months ago

              Who is we guys? It’s just me here. And I think we are at an impasse. Nothing you or I assume about what the other has thought through or not will change minds, there’s no point in arguing without evidence. So, good luck out there

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                5 months ago

                I think you would rather your assumptions about the Jews of Israel be true rather than find out they aren’t, so yes, by all means we can allow the conversation yo end for your benefit.

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                  5 months ago

                  At this point I have to assume you’re not conversing in good faith. I have given evidence to support my stance. You have not. All you have are straw man and ad hominem arguments.

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                    5 months ago

                    You need evidence that there are Jews of all ethnicities?