• spujb@lemmy.cafe
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    2 months ago

    I’m sure those women facing prosecution for seeking a medically necessary procedure will find great comfort in knowing about your destabilization efforts, as they endure their noble suffering in coming years.

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          2 months ago

          So? This will just be reversed in a few years. In the long term, these votes mean nothing, The progress to fascism through liberal voting is inexorable.

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            2 months ago

            “The progress to fascism through liberal voting is inexorable, you understand” I explain to the sixteen year old child, victim of sexual assault, forced to carry her unviable pregnancy to term in 2025.

            Yuck.

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              2 months ago

              Why 2025?it’s reality right now under your guy! Don’t try to hide the failures of your system.

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                2 months ago

                Why 2025? Because you just delivered an entire tirade about your concerns for ‘the long term.’ I aim to highlight the immediate damage being inflicted today or within the next year. Interestingly, I prioritize the well-being of those currently affected by oppressive regimes and don’t perceive women as mere pawns to reach some hypothetical better future.

                You can’t advocate for ‘the long term’ selectively and then shift focus to ‘right now under your guy’ when it suits your argument.

                With that disingenuous move on your part, my rhetorical engagement here concludes. Have a pleasant day.

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                  2 months ago

                  The people in the 80s were making the same arguments as you about the “short term”. This inexorably led to genocides, climate apocalypse and abortion bans. Ergo, this “short-term thinking” is and has always been an abject failure. I claim that your approach is directly going to lead to more suffering for women and minorities and likely the death of billions from climate disasters.

                  To protect these people the answer is to ignore vote and go and do literally anything else for social change.

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                    2 months ago

                    cite ur source that identifies these parallels and ill change my position. im not here to “defend short term thinking”, im here to defend the rights of human beings. so a subtle difference there.